Plane etiquette… lurgy
Discussion
Alorotom said:
They did you a favour - it’s yet another set of antibodies you’ll have developed.
Planes are public transport and nothing more than that. There is zero reason for anyone to question anyone and frankly it would be none of anyone’s business - if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Simple really (as harass as that is)
That's a really depressing attitude 'not my problem m8' which is starting to become endemic. Consideration for others makes for a generally nicer world. Planes are public transport and nothing more than that. There is zero reason for anyone to question anyone and frankly it would be none of anyone’s business - if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Simple really (as harass as that is)
You sound very much like a nearby neighbour who when politely asked to not park in a position whereby it was near-impossible to navigate the road simply repeated 'not my problem' and then criminally damaged my car, twice. Because nobody should be challenged in life.
croyde said:
Totally agree, if you pay for economy well, put up with non moving seats.
I say that as someone who 99.99% of the time travels economy btw.
Sat at the back of a RyanAir once where the seats can't recline due to the bulkhead. Dippys
t in front of me reclines and now I can't read as my paper is too close to my face and I have to have T-Rex arms to eat my dinner.
I cam identify with the T-Rex arms I say that as someone who 99.99% of the time travels economy btw.
Sat at the back of a RyanAir once where the seats can't recline due to the bulkhead. Dippys
t in front of me reclines and now I can't read as my paper is too close to my face and I have to have T-Rex arms to eat my dinner.
they make the bloody seats so narrow its virtually impossible to eat nicely even under normal circumstsnces!croyde said:
Seems to be nearly everyone I know gets a cold or Covid flying back from holidays.
Luckily nobody has caught anything on the way out though
I flew to Chicago to do my dream holiday driving the Route 66. Someone sat next to me coughing and spluttering. A couple of days later I had one of the worst colds of my life, unfortunately I'm not that lucky. Luckily nobody has caught anything on the way out though
It had passed the day before I was due to fly back from LA.
I managed to enjoy my road trip, but do think it'd have been a lot better if I wasn't on deaths door.
Lord Marylebone said:
Kermit power said:
Isn't it staggering that 99.99% of the human race that came before us would never have worn a face mask in their lives, yet somehow the species has not yet become extinct???
Or maybe it's just that our immune systems generally become stronger through catching stuff and fighting it off, especially in the early years of childhood?
I despair for all the poor kids of today who are constantly having everything around them disinfected and sanitized by helicopter parents who think the slightest little bug will kill their poor cherubs! Even before so many little kids were locked away during the pandemic and deprived of the chance to build a proper immune system, we'd been seeing the rise of things like asthma for years. It may well be correlation rather than causation, but it certainly can't be helping!
As someone who has a young child, and who has a brother & friends with young children, it is sometimes a tricky decision, or a balancing act, between trying to stop them getting ill, or doing nothing and letting them being ill for weeks and weeks, which then passes to everyone else. Parents, grandparents, other kids, then back to them again... It can get exhausting at times with whole families being stuck down with every single illness the children bring home from nurseries, friends, and playgroups. My parents are in their 70's, and they look after mine and my brothers kids a couple of days per week, and have basically spent the last 4+ years being ill on and off from nursery colds, viruses, bugs, conjunctivitis, and so on, all brought home by the children.Or maybe it's just that our immune systems generally become stronger through catching stuff and fighting it off, especially in the early years of childhood?
I despair for all the poor kids of today who are constantly having everything around them disinfected and sanitized by helicopter parents who think the slightest little bug will kill their poor cherubs! Even before so many little kids were locked away during the pandemic and deprived of the chance to build a proper immune system, we'd been seeing the rise of things like asthma for years. It may well be correlation rather than causation, but it certainly can't be helping!
I absolutely agree that children should build up an immune response by being ill, catching colds, playing in the soil, playing with pets, and so on, and this is the approach we take, but I can fully understand why some people might make their kids wash their hands, use sanitiser, and stay away from ill people.
We always took the sort of general sanitation approach that our parents did for us - playing in mud was fine so long as you didn't then jump on the sofa, you didn't need a disinfection shower just because you'd stroked a dog, etc - and I can pretty much count on my fingers the combined number of days they've had off sick since they started school.
In contrast, the kids who as toddlers were raised with the modern approach of "kill it with Dettol and then resort to fire just in case" seem to be off sick on a staggeringly regular basis with some sort of pathetic sniffle or something!
One of the main reasons why I avoid flying like the plague. Absolutely hate being up close and personal with extremely random people ans their foibles.
One memorable journey was en route back from Majorca, beautiful apartment in a stunning back street of Palma. Fantastic week.
On the way back women walking back and forth back and forth barefoot to the toilet, letting their children run up and down the aisle screaming and playing grabbing arms as they go etc.
Constant shouting questions to their friends a few aisles further up.
They looked like new middle class types and didn't realise that they were acting very common and badly.
One memorable journey was en route back from Majorca, beautiful apartment in a stunning back street of Palma. Fantastic week.
On the way back women walking back and forth back and forth barefoot to the toilet, letting their children run up and down the aisle screaming and playing grabbing arms as they go etc.
Constant shouting questions to their friends a few aisles further up.
They looked like new middle class types and didn't realise that they were acting very common and badly.
Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Thursday 23 February 16:56
Hugo Stiglitz said:
One of the main reasons why I avoid flying like the plague. Absolutely hate being up close and personal with extremely random people ans their foibles.
One memorable journey was en route back from Majorca, beautiful apartment in a stunning back street of Palma. Fantastic week.
On the way back women walking back and forth back and forth barefoot to the toilet, letting their children run up and down the aisle screaming and playing grabbing arms as they go etc.
Constant shouting questions to their friends a few aisles further up.
They looked like new middle class types and didn't realise that they were acting very common and badly.
I flew BOAC as a lad. Mum made us all wear our Sunday Best for flights.One memorable journey was en route back from Majorca, beautiful apartment in a stunning back street of Palma. Fantastic week.
On the way back women walking back and forth back and forth barefoot to the toilet, letting their children run up and down the aisle screaming and playing grabbing arms as they go etc.
Constant shouting questions to their friends a few aisles further up.
They looked like new middle class types and didn't realise that they were acting very common and badly.
Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Thursday 23 February 16:56
Had to look our best if the plane went down
No hoi polloi back then.
Flying with jet2, booked and paid for two aisle seats opposite for us. Get to seat fat bh sitting in my seat with her husband in middle. Do you want window seat? No way, I want the seat I paid for, woman grumbling moves into middle seat and lifts up the armrest which I promptly lower, she was unhappy, I stated it is a requirement during take off and landing for the armrests to be down. These people should pay for two seats if a single seat is too narrow for them.
Do not see benefit of window seat once you are above the clouds who cares what is outside, plus I think the window seats are colder. Easier to get to toilets too from aisle seat.
Just returned from Tenerife on easyJet , very cold in cabin both flights are they cutting down the heating to save fuel?
h sitting in my seat with her husband in middle. Do you want window seat? No way, I want the seat I paid for, woman grumbling moves into middle seat and lifts up the armrest which I promptly lower, she was unhappy, I stated it is a requirement during take off and landing for the armrests to be down. These people should pay for two seats if a single seat is too narrow for them.Do not see benefit of window seat once you are above the clouds who cares what is outside, plus I think the window seats are colder. Easier to get to toilets too from aisle seat.
Just returned from Tenerife on easyJet , very cold in cabin both flights are they cutting down the heating to save fuel?
Mercdriver said:
Flying with jet2, booked and paid for two aisle seats opposite for us. Get to seat fat bh sitting in my seat with her husband in middle. Do you want window seat? No way, I want the seat I paid for, woman grumbling moves into middle seat and lifts up the armrest which I promptly lower, she was unhappy, I stated it is a requirement during take off and landing for the armrests to be down. These people should pay for two seats if a single seat is too narrow for them.
Do not see benefit of window seat once you are above the clouds who cares what is outside, plus I think the window seats are colder. Easier to get to toilets too from aisle seat.
Just returned from Tenerife on easyJet , very cold in cabin both flights are they cutting down the heating to save fuel?
Haha - I fly out of Bristol a lot and it's hell on earth (hen and stags from Wales) - carnage - and loads of fat slags, shouting at each other from seats miles apart. Very common for someone to arrive , find their seat occupied, and then be told (in a very thick welsh accent), "you don't mind do you love? we wanna all sit together, wer'e on a hen you see?" - with no intention of compromising. The "victim" usually gives up, faced with 20 welsh roughies staring at them.h sitting in my seat with her husband in middle. Do you want window seat? No way, I want the seat I paid for, woman grumbling moves into middle seat and lifts up the armrest which I promptly lower, she was unhappy, I stated it is a requirement during take off and landing for the armrests to be down. These people should pay for two seats if a single seat is too narrow for them.Do not see benefit of window seat once you are above the clouds who cares what is outside, plus I think the window seats are colder. Easier to get to toilets too from aisle seat.
Just returned from Tenerife on easyJet , very cold in cabin both flights are they cutting down the heating to save fuel?
One proper "unit" of a woman stood in the aisle the whole flight, feeding maltesers in her gob continuously , the whole way there. Pop one in, say something stupid, pop one in, say something stupid, pop one in, say something stupid, ad infintum. The crew had to squeeze past here frequently.
ArghhhH!
But, I put in my noise cancelling ear buds, no music, nothing , just noise cancelling, sit back, RECLINE (because I cann't sleep bolt upright), shut my eyes, and try and only open them when we have arrived.
(re reclining - here's a tip - if the person in front does it - you can too! and then you are left with the same space as before with the exception of your knees if you are tall, or fat, I suppose)
carreauchompeur said:
Alorotom said:
They did you a favour - it’s yet another set of antibodies you’ll have developed.
Planes are public transport and nothing more than that. There is zero reason for anyone to question anyone and frankly it would be none of anyone’s business - if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Simple really (as harass as that is)
That's a really depressing attitude 'not my problem m8' which is starting to become endemic. Consideration for others makes for a generally nicer world. Planes are public transport and nothing more than that. There is zero reason for anyone to question anyone and frankly it would be none of anyone’s business - if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Simple really (as harass as that is)
You sound very much like a nearby neighbour who when politely asked to not park in a position whereby it was near-impossible to navigate the road simply repeated 'not my problem' and then criminally damaged my car, twice. Because nobody should be challenged in life.
The thing is, they shouldn't need challenging, they should have the moral common decency to behave in a fashion that doesn't inflict unnecessary harm upon others where it can be avoided. Sadly, we have seen how terribly some people behave and how disgusting they are during the pandemic.
No one is asking for people with a cold etc to not board public transport but they should be expected to take precautions to limit the spread of what they are carrying. But no, Neanderthal's live among us.
PastelNata said:
carreauchompeur said:
Alorotom said:
They did you a favour - it’s yet another set of antibodies you’ll have developed.
Planes are public transport and nothing more than that. There is zero reason for anyone to question anyone and frankly it would be none of anyone’s business - if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Simple really (as harass as that is)
That's a really depressing attitude 'not my problem m8' which is starting to become endemic. Consideration for others makes for a generally nicer world. Planes are public transport and nothing more than that. There is zero reason for anyone to question anyone and frankly it would be none of anyone’s business - if you don’t like it, don’t fly. Simple really (as harass as that is)
You sound very much like a nearby neighbour who when politely asked to not park in a position whereby it was near-impossible to navigate the road simply repeated 'not my problem' and then criminally damaged my car, twice. Because nobody should be challenged in life.
The thing is, they shouldn't need challenging, they should have the moral common decency to behave in a fashion that doesn't inflict unnecessary harm upon others where it can be avoided. Sadly, we have seen how terribly some people behave and how disgusting they are during the pandemic.
No one is asking for people with a cold etc to not board public transport but they should be expected to take precautions to limit the spread of what they are carrying. But no, Neanderthal's live among us.
Didn't seem like what is being made out at all.
A good friend of mine was a captain of an aircraft which he flew regularly Edinburgh to Amsterdam, forget which aeroplane. he ended up with a brain tumour allegedly caused by poor seals on the air con allowing the poisonous lubricating oils in the engines. He subsequently died at a youngish age.
Allegedly the incidence of cancer of cabin crew, pilots and hosties is quite high.
I think there was an Aberdeen based charity fighting their case do not know how claims are going.
Allegedly the incidence of cancer of cabin crew, pilots and hosties is quite high.
I think there was an Aberdeen based charity fighting their case do not know how claims are going.
Mercdriver said:
A good friend of mine was a captain of an aircraft which he flew regularly Edinburgh to Amsterdam, forget which aeroplane. he ended up with a brain tumour allegedly caused by poor seals on the air con allowing the poisonous lubricating oils in the engines. He subsequently died at a youngish age.
Allegedly the incidence of cancer of cabin crew, pilots and hosties is quite high.
I think there was an Aberdeen based charity fighting their case do not know how claims are going.
Nasty, I have heard this too. I think that the newer aircraft dont use bleed-off air from the engines for this reason?Allegedly the incidence of cancer of cabin crew, pilots and hosties is quite high.
I think there was an Aberdeen based charity fighting their case do not know how claims are going.
croyde said:
Randy Winkman said:
I've said it before on PH and I know that not everyone agrees with me - I literally don't understand why "normal" aircraft have seats that recline. There just isn't enough room in planes where there's the standard allocation of leg room. I'm just under 6 feet tall and I get a bit miffed when the person in front of me does it. And I like to think I'm a very tolerant person.
Totally agree, if you pay for economy well, put up with non moving seats.I say that as someone who 99.99% of the time travels economy btw.
Sat at the back of a RyanAir once where the seats can't recline due to the bulkhead. Dippys
t in front of me reclines and now I can't read as my paper is too close to my face and I have to have T-Rex arms to eat my dinner.Gassing Station | Holidays & Travel | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff