718 GT4 UK Allocations
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Tesco Bob said:
av185 said:
Yep 2 yrs or 20k miles whichever comes first is correct. Sounds like a mistake. Coincidence it is 12 months old. Could be a recall perhaps best check with them.
Cheers, thought I’d check, tho with my mileage and waiting times to book a slot probably worth booking soon.Disproves those who claim you can't use a GT4 as a daily...invariably by those who haven't driven one.
Just added... £107k for a great spec car, yet it's coming up to 2 years old!
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
kmpowell said:
Just added... £107k for a great spec car, yet it's coming up to 2 years old!
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
Wasn’t going to bite but you dangled the carrot, like I said before just because something disappears off the site it is no evidence of sold or if sold what it actually went for! Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list , 6 months ago that would have been a minimum of £10k plus premium , I declined! Porsche is ramping up production and delivery this year to the UK by about 20% so doesn’t bode well for second hand values , but as long as you are driving and enjoying your car values have no bearing, they will all loose money in the end the free lunch is over!https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
This one has been on and off the market for months it’s now popped up again been reduced and moved around the group https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
GT4P said:
kmpowell said:
Just added... £107k for a great spec car, yet it's coming up to 2 years old!
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
Wasn’t going to bite but you dangled the carrot, like I said before just because something disappears off the site it is no evidence of sold or if sold what it actually went for! Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list , 6 months ago that would have been a minimum of £10k plus premium , I declined! Porsche is ramping up production and delivery this year to the UK by about 20% so doesn’t bode well for second hand values , but as long as you are driving and enjoying your car values have no bearing, they will all loose money in the end the free lunch is over!https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
Before Christmas, you predicted armageddon with unsold/cancelled GT4's littering OPC's come spring.
'Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list '
You're quite good at this.
In fairness this is how the market looked at the time and i was one of them.
In November, December and January there was a spike in interest rates and at the time a lot of cars came onto the market, at one point there were over 65 cars in the network, a good proportion of them were high spec cars. Remember the Porsche rates went from 5.9% to 10.9% very quickly.
At this point cars were hanging around for quite some time, cars which i thought were desirable..... i.e clubsport cars. Prices were falling a lot and dealers were specifically saying they were not buying cars to replace the sold cars unless there were buyers lined up... Sytner being the one i spoke to. And this was proven in their stock across the country.
Nice clubsport cars went from around 98k down to 87k very quickly! this was at both Porsche main dealers and the specialist dealers like JZM.
I bought one early December for 90k after some negotiation for a car that would have been 100k a few months before.
So what does the future hold not sure, are the dealers limiting stock to keep the margins high?
Did lots of the used cars sell because of the news the new cars would not be clubsport of have ceramics?
Dont know now. Kind of irrelevant for me now. But its nice to keep an eye on the availability of cars.
In November, December and January there was a spike in interest rates and at the time a lot of cars came onto the market, at one point there were over 65 cars in the network, a good proportion of them were high spec cars. Remember the Porsche rates went from 5.9% to 10.9% very quickly.
At this point cars were hanging around for quite some time, cars which i thought were desirable..... i.e clubsport cars. Prices were falling a lot and dealers were specifically saying they were not buying cars to replace the sold cars unless there were buyers lined up... Sytner being the one i spoke to. And this was proven in their stock across the country.
Nice clubsport cars went from around 98k down to 87k very quickly! this was at both Porsche main dealers and the specialist dealers like JZM.
I bought one early December for 90k after some negotiation for a car that would have been 100k a few months before.
So what does the future hold not sure, are the dealers limiting stock to keep the margins high?
Did lots of the used cars sell because of the news the new cars would not be clubsport of have ceramics?
Dont know now. Kind of irrelevant for me now. But its nice to keep an eye on the availability of cars.
northernmedia said:
GT4P said:
kmpowell said:
Just added... £107k for a great spec car, yet it's coming up to 2 years old!
https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
Wasn’t going to bite but you dangled the carrot, like I said before just because something disappears off the site it is no evidence of sold or if sold what it actually went for! Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list , 6 months ago that would have been a minimum of £10k plus premium , I declined! Porsche is ramping up production and delivery this year to the UK by about 20% so doesn’t bode well for second hand values , but as long as you are driving and enjoying your car values have no bearing, they will all loose money in the end the free lunch is over!https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...
Would any of the previous vocal naysayers care to come back and comment on how the market has actually gone, considering they were predicting fire sales and a plethora of unsellable cars a couple of months back?
Before Christmas, you predicted armageddon with unsold/cancelled GT4's littering OPC's come spring.
'Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list '
You're quite good at this.
Everyone said when covid was over it would- no it didn’t
Everyone said when the interest rate raised it would - no it didn’t.
It’s a supply and demand market and currently there is still a lack of supply if this changes the market might move but you can bet dealers will be reluctant to start discounting there stock and devaluing their brands after making so much profit over the last 2 years .
Edited by ClubsportStr on Thursday 23 March 09:33
northernmedia said:
'Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list '
You're quite good at this.
So are you calling me a liar?You're quite good at this.
Only a week or so ago there was a very low mileage fairly new car on the OPC for all to see at around list or just above looked a good buy so obviously didn’t hang around long!
Porsche centres do not put all their cars online, they drip feed them so as not to flood the market, so unless you work for a dealer group you would not know how many cars are out there waiting to be sold .
GT4P said:
northernmedia said:
'Only last weekend I was offered by an OPC a brand new club sport gt4 pre registered at just a few K over list '
You're quite good at this.
So are you calling me a liar?You're quite good at this.
Only a week or so ago there was a very low mileage fairly new car on the OPC for all to see at around list or just above looked a good buy so obviously didn’t hang around long!
Porsche centres do not put all their cars online, they drip feed them so as not to flood the market, so unless you work for a dealer group you would not know how many cars are out there waiting to be sold .
No, I'm calling you out as being terrible at predicting the future.
I highlighted that you'd been offered a car over list after you predicted the demise of the GT4 market.
Not quite sure what you don't understand?
Never depicted a demise of the market only a fall in prices and the availability of newish cars at list which is happening , and with interest rates raised again today the crash will come later ( that was tongue in cheek by the way)
Prices have softened and will continue this is also happening in the 911 market although some cars like the GT3 suffer less so but not infallible
Wasn’t going to bother answering this post, so will stick with posts in the future where people are actually driving their cars and not worrying about it’s value
Prices have softened and will continue this is also happening in the 911 market although some cars like the GT3 suffer less so but not infallible
Wasn’t going to bother answering this post, so will stick with posts in the future where people are actually driving their cars and not worrying about it’s value
GT4P said:
Never depicted a demise of the market only a fall in prices and the availability of newish cars at list which is happening , and with interest rates raised again today the crash will come later ( that was tongue in cheek by the way)
Prices have softened and will continue this is also happening in the 911 market although some cars like the GT3 suffer less so but not infallible
Wasn’t going to bother answering this post, so will stick with posts in the future where people are actually driving their cars and not worrying about it’s value
The irony here is that you and a notable few others spoke only of dropping values and impending doom and gloom. Prices have softened and will continue this is also happening in the 911 market although some cars like the GT3 suffer less so but not infallible
Wasn’t going to bother answering this post, so will stick with posts in the future where people are actually driving their cars and not worrying about it’s value
Happy to remind you just how many posts you made.
And as for driving their cars, well yes I agree and enjoy driving both of mine. A lot.
Of course, you sold yours to save any losses in event of a crash, which hasn't materialised.
Nuff said.
northernmedia said:
Of course, you sold yours to save any losses in event of a crash, which hasn't materialised.
Nuff said.
This is where you are mistaken again, spreading false information, I haven’t owned a Gt4 since 2017 and haven’t any intention of buying another! Gt4RS excepted but even then I would prefer the forthcoming SpyderRS Nuff said.
Losses is the way the Porsche market was and the sooner we return to a normal market the better for all!
Interesting to note the recent pattern and rapidity of sales and there are only 10 bucketed incl CS UK OPC GT4s now remaining.
All the older 2019 and most of the 2020 GT4s have now sold and out of the 10 remaining cars only 3 are non CS. The oldest 2020 manual cars (only 3) at two and a half to three years old even with an average of around 8k miles are still around £17k AP above their basic list price new and these are clearly the cheapest cars listed so all this talk of used 718 GT4s being below list price is clearly bks.
All the older 2019 and most of the 2020 GT4s have now sold and out of the 10 remaining cars only 3 are non CS. The oldest 2020 manual cars (only 3) at two and a half to three years old even with an average of around 8k miles are still around £17k AP above their basic list price new and these are clearly the cheapest cars listed so all this talk of used 718 GT4s being below list price is clearly bks.
av185 said:
two and a half to three years old even with an average of around 8k miles are still around £17k AP above their basic list price new and these are clearly the cheapest cars listed so all this talk of used 718 GT4s being below list price is clearly bks.
I see our resident flipper I mean dealer is chipping in lol!Why on earth is somebody going to buy a 2/3 year old car with 8k miles at £17k over list when a new/nearly new car can be had at either list or for a few K more! But more to the point no car cost basic price so the £17k over list is manipulation of the figures and bull! So let me get this right I buy a car for £70k basic list has £25k of extras I sell it for £85k I’m £10k down on what I paid but it’s still £15k overs really are you a friend of Boris!
Edited by GT4P on Thursday 23 March 22:18
Edited by GT4P on Thursday 23 March 22:20
Edited by GT4P on Thursday 23 March 22:21
GT4P said:
Why on earth is somebody going to buy a 2/3 year old car with 8k miles at £17k over list when a new/nearly new car can be had at either list or for a few K more!
Nope.Cheapest newest cars (10.22) are £104500 and £109900 and ones not even CS! So a huge difference of up to £20k more than the 2020 cheaper cars which have sold at £17k over basic list despite your denial.
Are you ever buying one or just on here to be argumentative and try to constantly in vain as usual talk the market down?
I take it you missed the 2023 pdk CS less than 100 miles for £102.5k (list about £100k) a few weeks back so only £14k above your 3 year old multi owner example!
Also stated many times not in the market! So I have nothing to gain or loose so can be impartial unlike yourself and others in both camps
Also stated many times not in the market! So I have nothing to gain or loose so can be impartial unlike yourself and others in both camps
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