BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022
Discussion
Its Just Adz said:
I listened to a podcast a few days ago with Brian Klein, Top Gear director. He said Freddie's injuries are nowhere near like what Hammond had from his famous accident but Freddie has asked for time to recover and reflect on it.
He doesn't go into any detail of what actually happened, but makes it sound like it's really affected him.
Freddie always seemed to have a cavalier attitude to safety and what he wanted to do, maybe this accident has made him reflect on this and realise his mortality and his family and what could happen if he carried on with that outlook. He doesn't go into any detail of what actually happened, but makes it sound like it's really affected him.
Red 5 said:
the BBC isn’t a business so profit is less of an issue.
Really? Given all we hear about budgets, TV licences and costs you think it’s not a business? Off topic I know.ETA: Also the recent cuts announced in BBC musical meaning quite a lot of people will be losing their salaried jobs is pretty much business like.
suffolk009 said:
I'm sad that the BBC appear to have decided to axe the show completely
Where’ve you heard that? TG is a huge earner for the BBC overseas as well as still popular in the UK. We even got so see what was in the can after CHM had left, I imagine a reboot or presenter change is on the way again and we’ll get to see whatever’s been filmed so far for Series 34 at some point too, maybe even the Morgan sequence too.Edited by Dashnine on Friday 24th March 06:54
Dashnine said:
Red 5 said:
the BBC isn’t a business so profit is less of an issue.
Really? Given all we hear about budgets, TV licences and costs you think it’s not a business? Off topic I know.ETA: Also the recent cuts announced in BBC musical meaning quite a lot of people will be losing their salaried jobs is pretty much business like.
suffolk009 said:
I'm sad that the BBC appear to have decided to axe the show completely
Where’ve you heard that? TG is a huge earner for the BBC overseas as well as still popular in the UK. We even got so see what was in the can after CHM had left, I imagine a reboot or presenter change is on the way again and we’ll get to see whatever’s been filmed so far for Series 34 at some point too, maybe even the Morgan sequence too.Edited by Dashnine on Friday 24th March 06:54
RC1807 said:
The Daily Wail is “reporting” the BBC are axing TG due to Flintoff not returning after his accident.
Never take the Daily Mail seriously. However, I heard on Radio 5 Live that Freddie Flintoff had been traumatised by the accident. Yes, I can relate to that. In 1980 I was in car which was t-boned by an amber gambler. I love cars and I love driving but I still get flashbacks.Personally, I think Top Gear died when Clarkson wrecked a Ford Mustang, racing it on a dried-up lake in Patagonia.
Langweilig said:
Never take the Daily Mail seriously. However, I heard on Radio 5 Live that Freddie Flintoff had been traumatised by the accident. Yes, I can relate to that. In 1980 I was in car which was t-boned by an amber gambler. I love cars and I love driving but I still get flashbacks.
Personally, I think Top Gear died when Clarkson wrecked a Ford Mustang, racing it on a dried-up lake in Patagonia.
Out of interest, was that someone going through on amber before it turned to red, or through on amber before it went to green?Personally, I think Top Gear died when Clarkson wrecked a Ford Mustang, racing it on a dried-up lake in Patagonia.
Dashnine said:
suffolk009 said:
Widely reported that they have cancelled the rest of this series. And then a handful of opinions from people in the industry that it won't return at all.
Cancelling the rest of this series is somewhat different to axing the show completely!I didn't bother with the latest series.
Chris Harris was good when he wasn't trying to be a comedian or pretend laughing. FF grew on me as time went on while Paddy McGuinness grew more and more annoying.
Some of the things they were doing, like rallying with people strapped to the roofs, looked very dangerous to me.
Chris Harris was good when he wasn't trying to be a comedian or pretend laughing. FF grew on me as time went on while Paddy McGuinness grew more and more annoying.
Some of the things they were doing, like rallying with people strapped to the roofs, looked very dangerous to me.
Somewhat unrelated to the current Flintoff focus but…
It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still st. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off.
But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still st. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off.
But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
Langweilig said:
RC1807 said:
The Daily Wail is “reporting” the BBC are axing TG due to Flintoff not returning after his accident.
Never take the Daily Mail seriously. However, I heard on Radio 5 Live that Freddie Flintoff had been traumatised by the accident. Yes, I can relate to that. In 1980 I was in car which was t-boned by an amber gambler. I love cars and I love driving but I still get flashbacks.Personally, I think Top Gear died when Clarkson wrecked a Ford Mustang, racing it on a dried-up lake in Patagonia.
HTP99 said:
Freddie always seemed to have a cavalier attitude to safety and what he wanted to do, maybe this accident has made him reflect on this and realise his mortality and his family and what could happen if he carried on with that outlook.
That's fine, in which case he can always quit.Or they could always do what plenty of other shows do and either just not include the temporarily unavailable person for a while, or sub someone else in. Not like it's the FF show or people are that keen to see him.
Halting over an incident, and being in no great rush to carry on or even do the H&S investigation isn't exactly pointing at this being a BBC priority. Well that, and the little detail of how short the series have become; it's a vestigial afterthought of a production.
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