TfL to slap 20mph limit on 65km more of London roads in Sept

TfL to slap 20mph limit on 65km more of London roads in Sept

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bigothunter

7,353 posts

47 months

Yesterday (23:32)
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gt_12345 said:
What makes you think 30mph is bad?

What's next, 10mph?

Then 5?

Then no cars?
Mission accomplished clap

bigothunter

7,353 posts

47 months

Yesterday (23:35)
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NMNeil said:
gavsdavs said:
Slapping a 20mph on the London arteries seems to be motivated by nothing other than revenue.
So fight back. Stick to the speed limit and deny them that money. biggrin
Use obedience to fight back rofl

croyde

21,207 posts

217 months

It's sadly worked with me. I live in SW London and have plenty of places to go to in the W and SW of the city, including work.

The 20mph limits, speed bumps, extended bus stops plus the excess of clueless drivers looking at everything bar where they are going, have ruined driving for me.

Thanks to hitting 60 years old and getting my free Oyster card I am putting up with the delays and disruption of public transport.

It takes far too long and is very prone to sudden cancellations/strikes but it's free. I certainly wouldn't pay for it.

I need to get out of London to some place where you can actually enjoy car use.

Meanwhile I must get out and buy a proper motorbike again.

QBee

19,754 posts

131 months

croyde said:
It's sadly worked with me. I live in SW London and have plenty of places to go to in the W and SW of the city, including work.

The 20mph limits, speed bumps, extended bus stops plus the excess of clueless drivers looking at everything bar where they are going, have ruined driving for me.

Thanks to hitting 60 years old and getting my free Oyster card I am putting up with the delays and disruption of public transport.

It takes far too long and is very prone to sudden cancellations/strikes but it's free. I certainly wouldn't pay for it.

I need to get out of London to some place where you can actually enjoy car use.

Meanwhile I must get out and buy a proper motorbike again.
This^^^^^^

I have to admit to being 70 later this year, and back 30-40 years ago regularly came into London of an evening for the entertainments on offer. I even organised some TVR tunnel runs, 70 cars enjoying the sights early on a Sunday about 10 years ago, but even they have now had to stop.

Apologies to James (above) if I have offended him. Not intended. I can see that many are used to living in London and I fully accept that it's horses for courses.

But I have worked in central London (1982-83) and visited as just described from 1983 to 2000. But since then it seems to have gone downhill in accessibility terms, the traffic has become restricted etc. and there are charges everywhere you look.

I have a sister in law who lives in west central London during the week (Gloucestershire for the weekend), but her life was made somewhat less stressful by having money. Her husband had a chauffeur 24/7 until he retired from his job as a FTSE100 CEO, and she went everywhere by taxi. She bought a Tesla Model S to save on congestion charges for when she did need to go somewhere in London where she could park, or for popping to various locations where family live. We aren't wealthy, and she convinced us not to try living in London.

I do like living in the countryside and am happy to take my TVR out for drives around the Peak District and so on without having my trousers taken down by Sadiq Khan and his mates. I go into Nottingham (20 miles away) about once a year, and then only at a weekend. I wouldn't do even that if we had a decent Asian supermarket closer to hand.

Croyde - go for it. Once you adapt to not being able to get a Costa at 4am just round the corner, you will love it. My advice to you is find a nice house, with a private garden and no neighbours, in the country, but within 5 miles of a small town. This town should be one that has restaurants, supermarkets etc. Avoid living to far from facilities, but also avoid living in the outskirts of any major city.
I live 3 miles outside Newark on Trent - it's 5 minutes to Asda, as we are allowed to drive over 8mph here in the sticks. My 8 bedroom house is worth less than a 2 bedroom semi in Fuham. But the A1, A46, A17 etc are all close at hand for getting places. And my nearest neighbour is 250 metres away.
Don't go too mad - for example, give the West Highlands of Scotland a miss. It might be beautiful, but it's too bloody far from everywhere, gets overrun with tourists in summer and has the worst weather ever the other 11 months of the year. And midges.

bigothunter

7,353 posts

47 months

croyde said:
It's sadly worked with me. I live in SW London and have plenty of places to go to in the W and SW of the city, including work.

The 20mph limits, speed bumps, extended bus stops plus the excess of clueless drivers looking at everything bar where they are going, have ruined driving for me.

Thanks to hitting 60 years old and getting my free Oyster card I am putting up with the delays and disruption of public transport.

It takes far too long and is very prone to sudden cancellations/strikes but it's free. I certainly wouldn't pay for it.

I need to get out of London to some place where you can actually enjoy car use.

Meanwhile I must get out and buy a proper motorbike again.
People reclaim the streets of London from cars cloud9