Re-mortgage now or wait?

Re-mortgage now or wait?

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Raymond Reddington

2,795 posts

97 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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I think I'll end up extending the term to the maximum possible to keep the payments the same, it's a horrible thought but a doubling of the monthly payment is not ideal at any time yet alone when everything else is going up as well!

Shappers24

695 posts

73 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Been thinking the same. I’m due to come off a 3 year fix of 1.5% next year. My calculations show a rate rise to 5-6% will see my repayments near enough double… interesting times ahead.

bobski1

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1,636 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Been a late one but need to call the broker tomorrow to see what rates he can locked in. I think given the risk to housing market and the change of more and more rate rises fixing now will be slightly more expensive in the short term but will save money going forward. Although fixing 3-4%, can people see the rates going higher than that?

gotoPzero

15,533 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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bobski1 said:
Although fixing 3-4%, can people see the rates going higher than that?
Yes from me. Base rates alone will probably hit mid 4's. Maybe higher.

I can see high street rates of 7% next year. Easily.


bobski1

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1,636 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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when going through a re-mortgage, how does the lender calculate the value of the house? Zoopla figures seem to be in our favour but if the lender thinks its less then of course go to adjust my calculations.

Also how the hell can I have paid over £60k and only have the amount drop by £30k? The amount of money these banks make is sickening. Agree with other posts banks withdrawing rates is them making money vs making even more money when they put the rates up with the new products.

Edited by bobski1 on Tuesday 27th September 20:53

gotoPzero

15,533 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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(IME)Valuation could be desktop, drive by or full valuation. I guess it depends on the circumstances of the remortgage?

I am sure someone like Sarnie would be able to confirm.

Seventyseven7

594 posts

56 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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bobski1 said:
when going through a re-mortgage, how does the lender calculate the value of the house? Zoopla figures seem to be in our favour but if the lender thinks its less then of course go to adjust my calculations.

Also how the hell can I have paid over £60k and only have the amount drop by £30k? The amount of money these banks make is sickening. Agree with other posts banks withdrawing rates is them making money vs making even more money when they put the rates up with the new products.

Edited by bobski1 on Tuesday 27th September 20:53
Lenders will often send round someone to value your house. That’s what HSBC generally do.

bobski1

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1,636 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Would people risk locking in a rate for 5 or 10yrs? a lot has changed in the last 5 years but going 10yrs there is a risk of being locked into a rate which is higher than the rate but I can't see that happening

Seventyseven7

594 posts

56 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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gotoPzero said:
bobski1 said:
Although fixing 3-4%, can people see the rates going higher than that?
Yes from me. Base rates alone will probably hit mid 4's. Maybe higher.

I can see high street rates of 7% next year. Easily.
I reckon it will be 3% at the end of next year smile

gotoPzero

15,533 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Seventyseven7 said:
gotoPzero said:
bobski1 said:
Although fixing 3-4%, can people see the rates going higher than that?
Yes from me. Base rates alone will probably hit mid 4's. Maybe higher.

I can see high street rates of 7% next year. Easily.
I reckon it will be 3% at the end of next year smile
Could be. But I think they are going to go to their peak and then relax down maybe 0.5% and then hold.

So on that basis I think 4.25 or 4.5 for a couple of years. Then maybe into the 3s for 2025.

bobski1

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1,636 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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whats the difference between a fixed and a variable rate that is fixed for X months?

SleepyOwl

64 posts

52 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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bobski1 said:
Also how the hell can I have paid over £60k and only have the amount drop by £30k? The amount of money these banks make is sickening. Agree with other posts banks withdrawing rates is them making money vs making even more money when they put the rates up with the new products.

Edited by bobski1 on Tuesday 27th September 20:53
Why do you pay more interest in the beginning of a mortgage?
In the beginning, you owe more interest, because your loan balance is still high. So most of your monthly payment goes to pay the interest, and a little bit goes to paying off the principal. Over time, as you pay down the principal, you owe less interest each month, because your loan balance is lower

Aiminghigh123

2,676 posts

56 months

Tuesday 27th September 2022
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Do some serious number crunching. We had a rate of 1.14% for 2 years which was a joy. Managed to lock in 5 years at 3.29% a month ago. Thank god.

My mate said the models at the bank he works at are all showing 99% chance rates will go up 1% minimum next time.
Another guy I know is contemplating paying nearly £20k in fees as his current deal ends June next year or rolling a dice and hoping rates come down by end of 2024. Otherwise he’s screwed. Will be going from £1500 a month to £3200 a month if rates go to 5%. Unsustainable for many.

MrJuice

2,845 posts

143 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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For those on repayment, surely the answer to high renewal rates is to switch to interest only and hope rates fall..?

6% on IO equates to £500/month for every 100k you have left to pay

mk2driver

153 posts

103 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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My current fixed deal ends Sep 24 and is at 2.19% at the moment

I’m holding tight until then hoping that we will have passed the peak and be on the way down

Clearly this may not happen but paying a large ERC and upping the payments by a huge chunk right now seems like it may not pay off for me

Also gives me two years to get even tighter on the overall household budget in order to make that rise less impactful

Raymond Reddington

2,795 posts

97 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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The more I think about it, the more this is making me want to sell up and cash In (if anyones even buying), and move in to rented accommodation nearer to work for a while until or if the market crashes and then buy something bigger for cheap.

We're a bit gutted, we had hoped to move to a bigger home early next year as we want to start a family and our current home is very small and doesn't have a bath, just a shower and tiny 'bathroom' which isn't ideal. Obviously no one knows what might happen but it's not looking good.

Aiminghigh123

2,676 posts

56 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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MrJuice said:
For those on repayment, surely the answer to high renewal rates is to switch to interest only and hope rates fall..?

6% on IO equates to £500/month for every 100k you have left to pay
I didn’t think you could switch to interest only now unless you are a landlord?

A.J.M

7,600 posts

173 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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My renewal is due in January.
Was hoping it would be less than the 3.42% we are currently on, but that doesn’t look likely now.

Paul_M3

2,279 posts

172 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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My current 2.09% deal ends later next year.

I've just asked for a redemption statement and my ERC would be £1150 at this point.

It's very tempting to try and get locked into a new deal now.

Raymond Reddington

2,795 posts

97 months

Wednesday 28th September 2022
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A.J.M said:
My renewal is due in January.
Was hoping it would be less than the 3.42% we are currently on, but that doesn’t look likely now.
You should consider locking in a new deal now if you can, it's looking like today's deals are the best you may get for some time.