Automotive Vloggers (Vol. 5)

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InformationSuperHighway

5,007 posts

171 months

Yesterday (15:55)
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Raccaccoonie said:
Just looking at Schmee on social blade, 170k, videos views down nearly 6 million a month in two years.

Does anyone really believe without being very rich yourself, all this is done off the back on a channel. I'm sure he said he had a big team as well. Running a channel at a loss to tell people how rich you are, that is pretty desperate and sad.
I've watched Tim for years and admired the graft. A video a day on average for a decade is impressive and regardless of where the money comes from he works hard. This style.. you either like or don't horses for courses..... however...

I myself am really wondering how it's all funded (Why do I care? I don't know but I do). His last video on the LaF was a huge hint towards him being on the list for the LaF replacement. He's also spent (Literally) millions with Ferrari over the last 24 months. He's had 2x GTCs, an SF90, 296 and Purosandwich on the way... the LaF video he basically admitted that it is the ultimate supercar brand and wants a huge collection etc..

And that's just Ferrari, what about all of the others, the barn, the staff etc..

It simply doesn't add up any more especially as he rarely does in video ads.

Back to the question why do I care? Well because the whole premise of his story has been hard work and built from nothing. Selling mobile phone accessories then launching the channel etc.. It doesn't make sense to me any more.

Downward

2,729 posts

90 months

Yesterday (16:55)
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yanyan said:
The DJ Audits geezer owns a company that sells 240v adaptors.

Seems like people have sussed this and are now leaving Trust Pilot reviews for his company.

Well worth a read, but be quick as I'm sure they'll be removed soon.

Link here; https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/acadaptorsrus.co....
What’s he done in the past 2 weeks ?
I saw someone linking his company which is doing pretty well to be fair.
Wonder if he has moved into spy cams ?

WelshGTI

6 posts

68 months

Yesterday (16:56)
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InformationSuperHighway said:
Raccaccoonie said:
Just looking at Schmee on social blade, 170k, videos views down nearly 6 million a month in two years.

Does anyone really believe without being very rich yourself, all this is done off the back on a channel. I'm sure he said he had a big team as well. Running a channel at a loss to tell people how rich you are, that is pretty desperate and sad.
I've watched Tim for years and admired the graft. A video a day on average for a decade is impressive and regardless of where the money comes from he works hard. This style.. you either like or don't horses for courses..... however...

I myself am really wondering how it's all funded (Why do I care? I don't know but I do). His last video on the LaF was a huge hint towards him being on the list for the LaF replacement. He's also spent (Literally) millions with Ferrari over the last 24 months. He's had 2x GTCs, an SF90, 296 and Purosandwich on the way... the LaF video he basically admitted that it is the ultimate supercar brand and wants a huge collection etc..

And that's just Ferrari, what about all of the others, the barn, the staff etc..

It simply doesn't add up any more especially as he rarely does in video ads.

Back to the question why do I care? Well because the whole premise of his story has been hard work and built from nothing. Selling mobile phone accessories then launching the channel etc.. It doesn't make sense to me any more.
It's pretty clear that he has more businesses and investments than just his Youtube channel. He probably has plenty of passive income coming in from other interests.

C70R

14,164 posts

91 months

Yesterday (17:26)
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Talking about how YouTubers make money is terminally dull. Would it be possible to start a thread where everyone who gets a kick out of speculating on this stuff can take the conversation?

Bubba Zanetti

574 posts

134 months

Yesterday (19:01)
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Raccaccoonie said:
Is there a list of non vomit inducing vloggers?

Harry Metcalfe
Jay Leno
Doug 'the details' DeMuro
Carwow Matt is pretty funny
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There is and there's only three names on it:

Harry Metcalfe
Jay Leno
Tyrrell's Classic Workshop

928 GTS

377 posts

82 months

Yesterday (19:48)
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C70R said:
Talking about how YouTubers make money is terminally dull. Would it be possible to start a thread where everyone who gets a kick out of speculating on this stuff can take the conversation?
Separate thread or in here, I'll vote this for first discussion point.

https://www.youtube.com/@arabicmovlogs/videos

Having seen his English channel years ago by accident and nearly losing all hope in humanity just had to punish myself even more and see whats going on now. Even if English channels die off there is large market for Arabic etc. emerging markets. Pay per view isn't as high but millions of views must pay something. Obviously not enough for all the spending but significant numbers. Channels like these will be big problem for Arabic countries. Doesn't matter how real it is. As mobile phones spread everywhere oppressive regimes will have problems with young people.

mdk1

419 posts

196 months

Yesterday (19:59)
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Just watch the latest JayEmm video.
James that was great, should of been a lot longer, the guy was fascinating and I feel you only scratched the surface of the story of the car build.

Doofus

23,078 posts

160 months

Yesterday (20:01)
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mdk1 said:
Just watch the latest JayEmm video.
James that was great, should of been a lot longer, the guy was fascinating and I feel you only scratched the surface of the story of the car build.
Is that the F1 car? Much as I like Jayemm, I won't be watching it, because motorsport.

mdk1

419 posts

196 months

Yesterday (20:15)
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Doofus said:
mdk1 said:
Just watch the latest JayEmm video.
James that was great, should of been a lot longer, the guy was fascinating and I feel you only scratched the surface of the story of the car build.
Is that the F1 car? Much as I like Jayemm, I won't be watching it, because motorsport.
Yes that’s the one, but more interesting than motorsport only.

Raccaccoonie

1,629 posts

6 months

Yesterday (20:17)
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C70R said:
Talking about how YouTubers make money is terminally dull. Would it be possible to start a thread where everyone who gets a kick out of speculating on this stuff can take the conversation?
It was more having lots of money doesn't make you interesting, which backed up by declining views.

jayemm89

3,658 posts

117 months

Yesterday (20:36)
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Doofus said:
The thing is, most vloggers are at risk of becoming stale.
Then there are those who have variety 'built in'. Invariably they review, or talk about cars, but those can be new, old, expensive or cheap.
It was a conscious decision when starting out that I wanted to have content which would have a long life span.

I knew in the early days that content which got many clicks, but over a short space of time, was not going to be the route to a long term business as it'd require a constant churn which would be hard to sustain and easy to lose momentum. 5/6 years ago really was the peak of the "buy/exhaust/wrap supercar" thing and now the new one is the "buy broken/rebuild/raffle". Not saying they're bad, but it's not content I have the ability to make.

Reviews are reasonably evergreen, and a large number of views for me will come from the back catalogue. Even if a videos getting 100 views a month or so, there's now around 1200 live so that does add up.

jayemm89

3,658 posts

117 months

Yesterday (20:44)
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mdk1 said:
Just watch the latest JayEmm video.
James that was great, should of been a lot longer, the guy was fascinating and I feel you only scratched the surface of the story of the car build.
Thankyou! This was all shot absolute last minute, virtually no prep - the guy was in the country, the car was here, it was a contact made through a mutual friend and I didn't even know what the car was until essentially the day before.

I'm very proud of what we achieved in a short time, it took quite a bit of editing to make it flow - though I am currently getting a lot of flak for some of the end segment where we talk about an organisation the guy works with. I actually cut it down quite dramatically in order to speed things up, but this has already upset quite a few people more than it really should. There's still a flipping nice F1 car in the background!

And for those who have enjoyed my historic F1 car bits, there's another video I'm currently working on you'll really enjoy.


614-HSO

902 posts

35 months

Yesterday (21:53)
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Raccaccoonie said:
Is there a list of non vomit inducing vloggers?

Harry Metcalfe
Jay Leno
Doug 'the details' DeMuro
Carwow Matt is pretty funny
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Fixed it for you.

Is there a list of vomit inducing vloggers?

Doug 'the details' DeMuro
Carwow Matt

jamesth32

291 posts

41 months

Yesterday (23:34)
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ThomW said:
I saw that Archie Hamilton had moved his ABT RS3-R on already. What a surprise - in fact I wonder if he ever even paid for the conversion and it wasn’t just funded by Richter Sport as their demo car.

Now he’s getting a new RS6 Performance in a few weeks, with some supporting bks about it being the last ICE RS6, limited run (no it isn’t), special car etc. Which I’m sure he’ll keep for about a month.

But oh no, it’s also going to become an ABT RS6-R, so once again this is most likely a load of ste and it’s Richter’s car.

He’s still got the X5M which I’m sure will go when that arrives, and ‘one of the first new M2’s in the UK’ coming too. Which once again, is black/black/black. How incredibly dull.
He still makes videos? I was once at a car meet and he said basically anything over 5 years old is a bag of st his words considering his family come from a racing heritage background with the collection they have he came across as a right knob

Jules Sunley

2,964 posts

80 months

Yesterday (23:35)
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Raccaccoonie said:
Just looking at Schmee on social blade, 170k, videos views down nearly 6 million a month in two years.

Does anyone really believe without being very rich yourself, all this is done off the back on a channel. I'm sure he said he had a big team as well. Running a channel at a loss to tell people how rich you are, that is pretty desperate and sad.
Shmee, there isn't a C in it...

Raccaccoonie

1,629 posts

6 months

Yesterday (23:50)
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Jules Sunley said:
Shmee, there isn't a C in it...
Who cares.

honda_exige

4,839 posts

193 months

On the subject of YT earnings this is one year of Linus Tech Tips channels which Linus posted.

$4.5m off 1.5 billion views.

125 million views per month which is 25x more than Shmee views per month.

I would suggest that the per view revenue for Linus would be higher than Shmee due to the demographics and people who watch their vids directly go out and buy computer stuff.

The earnings match pretty well to the upper end of Social Blade estimates so the earnings of a Shmee size channel seems to be around the £150k/Yr mark.

LTT is a very different business though, he has 100 employees for a start but masses of additional income, 2 videos a day and every one has a sponsor paying around $5-20k per video so just that equates to up to $40k/day additional revenue.


Jules Sunley

2,964 posts

80 months

Raccaccoonie said:
Who cares.
Pedants like me.

Raccaccoonie

1,629 posts

6 months

honda_exige said:
On the subject of YT earnings this is one year of Linus Tech Tips channels which Linus posted.

$4.5m off 1.5 billion views.

125 million views per month which is 25x more than Shmee views per month.

I would suggest that the per view revenue for Linus would be higher than Shmee due to the demographics and people who watch their vids directly go out and buy computer stuff.

The earnings match pretty well to the upper end of Social Blade estimates so the earnings of a Shmee size channel seems to be around the £150k/Yr mark.

LTT is a very different business though, he has 100 employees for a start but masses of additional income, 2 videos a day and every one has a sponsor paying around $5-20k per video so just that equates to up to $40k/day additional revenue.

Has quite a few channels as well under his company. I like him, decent bloke makes things interesting, you learn a lot, and even though he is loaded still doesn't act like a massive bellend. I think he did a Tesla review, very different, which is what i like. There is a sea of rich people with zero personality, it is going to be tough to keep their channels going and the media consumption types are changing.

ThomW

500 posts

15 months

honda_exige said:
On the subject of YT earnings this is one year of Linus Tech Tips channels which Linus posted.

$4.5m off 1.5 billion views.

125 million views per month which is 25x more than Shmee views per month.

I would suggest that the per view revenue for Linus would be higher than Shmee due to the demographics and people who watch their vids directly go out and buy computer stuff.

The earnings match pretty well to the upper end of Social Blade estimates so the earnings of a Shmee size channel seems to be around the £150k/Yr mark.

LTT is a very different business though, he has 100 employees for a start but masses of additional income, 2 videos a day and every one has a sponsor paying around $5-20k per video so just that equates to up to $40k/day additional revenue.

I don’t get it - Shmee has said many times that YT is only a small amount of his income. People saying ‘ooh there must be more to it’ like there’s some massive conspiracy.

Well obviously there’s money from somewhere, maybe he was very clever with investments early on? But he clearly couldn’t keep buying all the cars he’s doing if he wasn’t making serious money somewhere.

I can’t see the Shmuseum channel going much longer though, paying the least charismatic man alive (on camera, never met him) to shuffle cars around with a full time videographer surely can’t last.