Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?

Even the latest figures may not be 'normal' - they were in the middle of a pandemic and lockdowns. Didn't that make a difference?

5 years is not the end of manufacturer warranty - 3 years is. 5 years is when the extended warranty cost goes up.

McLaren New Forest have just cut this volcano yellow 570S from £105k to £95k.

Talking to them, they've 're-priced' a lot of their stock, McLaren and Bentley, to get it competitive with the market, this being just one example. They also said that their current finance rates are valid until the end of the month, and after that they'll be going up three percentage points.

So... if you're looking to finance, now might be a good time to buy; conversely as the interest rate rises feed through it may lead to lower demand and prices over the winter, if you're paying cash.

(I was going to go and look at the above car, it looks fab in the pics/video, however I've just found out I can't get my garage door widened until January, so have to hold fire for now. Damn.)

Yeah, thought about that (because I am tempted), but doesn't quite work.

They could store it for 2-3 weeks for me, but not 2-3 months.

Anyway then you get into paying to own (& warranty etc) a car you're not driving, having it sit unused etc for a quarter of a year.

I'm not anticipating a huge shortage of cars or major price rises in January*, so while I'm gutted right now, the logical thing to do is to wait.

I'll be happy with Volcano Red/Orange/Yellow, Napier Green, Vega Blue, Mauvine Blue or Lantana Purple, so should be able to find something even if it then takes a couple more months.

(* famous last words)

My 650 didn't fit in my garage. Just meant it lived outside for 3 years.

Fair enough - although you've pretty much described how mine was parked (except I didn't block my other cars, but used it 90% of the time anyway) :

sounds great as Ill be a cash buyer..looks like there could be some real actual bargaining on the cards - few £'k maybe? + winter. Im still ever hopeful of securing a 570s hopefully late/early this year

interesting that the rate rises not yet actually fed through

Had a really good chat with the James at Hatfield today about all things Sports Series. He said they've also adjusted a few of their prices down a bit recently, and he basically said that £100k will get the vast majority of Sports Series Coupes; it would need to be a very late model, low mileage or rare high spec to justify paying more than that.
That's for a "McLaren Qualifed" car with 12 months official extended warranty included, so private or independent dealer sales should be less, as the former are caveat emptor and the latter can't include McWarranty.

Looking on AT for approved used 570S Coupes, there are cars at £90k, £90k, £95k, £105k & £115k. I'd suggest the latter two are probably £5k high; the last one is a 2020 one-owner car w/ HDK so justifies being a little way into six figures.


I asked about model variations, and James very much sang the praises of ceramic brakes both to drive and to own, justifying the 570 over the 540. Which could be because he doesn't have any 540s to sell Otherwise he said the differences between the three behind the wheel were minor.

I don't think one can generalise on how much discount you could expect. To take the above-mentioned yellow car as an example, presumably in retrospect if you'd walked into New Forest last weekend when it was up at £105k, you could've negotiated a fairly significant discount. However if you go in this weekend when it's just been cut to £95k, I imagine they'd not be interested in discounting much more off that price, and I'd expect it'll sell fairly soon for pretty much £95k.

Which is all to say that I wouldn't expect dealers to give discount 'just because', but if a car looks poor value against the market, and especially if it's been advertised for a while (check the AT URL for the date), then you should probably be making an offer accordingly.

On the finance rates I imagine they get them fixed a month at a time, set a week or two in advance - I guess you'd really need that sort of stability and advance notice if you're trying to offer and put together a transaction with a part-ex, finance, prep of the new car etc for a customer - it's not a in-and-out thing like a greengrocers for most buyers I imagine And the kamikwasi budget was only 23rd Sept, so the resulting chaos could well not've been priced in til next month.

Thanks for flagging the fuel filter issue, I asked James about this. He asked his service guy and quoted an extra £600 inc vat to change the fuel filter at the 6yr mark - on top of £1400 for a 'standard' major, so £2k for that service. Still a big cost especially if someone (eg me) buys a five year old car and then gets hit with a £5k bill after 12 months ownership, but on the other hand if you're getting quoted over £3k for the service, either that includes other work or maybe it's worth shopping around, as I understand (weirdly) that the different franchised dealers have different prices for service work. James also said that work is only 'recommended', unsure what the implications would be of not changing it.


Anyway, I found James at Hatfield very friendly and informative (not always toeing the official McLaren line, either), and they have good coffee so if anyone's interested I recommend a chat with your nearest Mac dealership, my experience so far has been a lot better than internet rumour might suggest - you've nothing to lose except a pleasant morning ogling lots of shiny McLarens

I clearly need to cultivate a bit more nonchalance before I can be worthy of joining the elite club of McLaren owners Anyway all good, I'll get there sooner or later

I worry if they 'take a kicking' that they won't be McLaren dealers any more. Not a great situation for owners. Dealers need to make a profit after all their costs including VAT, so if they have £10-£15k paper gain (i.e. what they bid/pay vs advertise for sale/sell) on car I think that is perfectly reasonable.

So if the above cars are now being sold at cost or a small loss it won't be good news IMO.

If you knew what the dealers either bid for them or on a p/ex value (which ive just had) they certainly arent taking a kicking even at those price drops and with regard to the volcano yellow at NF, whist ever it is in one of the best colours it is very low spec, no exterior carbon, no front lift (mentioned) etc the reccesion white one is a pretty good buy with the P1 seats (no carbon, no lift mentioned), put a decent wrap on it and youve got a nice car with those seats.

A lot of chat on various threads about "buyers" waiting for values to drop before they jump, all the time potential owners are missing out on ownership and driving, which is the only reason to buy a car like a Mclaren, if you want a safe bet and cant afford any depreciation, buy a Porsche GT series car.

If a car is in budget, just buy it and enjoy driving it, its what a car is for!

Quite a judgemental post …what is the correct car to house/net worth ratio then?!