F1: Beyond The Grid Podcast
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I enjoy them , but Tom Clarkson does tend to lead interviewees in the direction of Senna or Schumacher wherever he can. I realise that this is branded an F1 podcast ,and much of the audience might not share my interest in motor sport generally but I do get irritated at the F1 emphasis .
I am very happy to hear about the Formula Ford adventures of Hill , Blundell and Herbert, or Sato's amazing pace in F3 (all of which I watched in period ) and I'd like to have heard more about Indy from Villeneuve.
I am very happy to hear about the Formula Ford adventures of Hill , Blundell and Herbert, or Sato's amazing pace in F3 (all of which I watched in period ) and I'd like to have heard more about Indy from Villeneuve.
Very good (and recent) JB MotorSport interview here:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...
Piginapoke said:
Very good (and recent) JB MotorSport interview here:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...
Good read - might look for the book.https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...
I think this is the best one in the series, a fascinating chat with Julian Jacobi (manager of Senna, Prost and many other stars).
https://youtu.be/HswrdbM0q40
The interview is very much a focus on his relationship with Senna hence some very interesting comments, possibly the best thing I have learned about Senna.
https://youtu.be/HswrdbM0q40
The interview is very much a focus on his relationship with Senna hence some very interesting comments, possibly the best thing I have learned about Senna.
rallycross said:
I think this is the best one in the series, a fascinating chat with Julian Jacobi (manager of Senna, Prost and many other stars).
https://youtu.be/HswrdbM0q40
The interview is very much a focus on his relationship with Senna hence some very interesting comments, possibly the best thing I have learned about Senna.
Agreed, fills in context on a few things I read over the years and heard directly from two people I know who were close to Senna. https://youtu.be/HswrdbM0q40
The interview is very much a focus on his relationship with Senna hence some very interesting comments, possibly the best thing I have learned about Senna.
Williams had planned to have Prost and Senna for 1993 with a lot of money involved from Renault and Elf (Mansell's early retirement was all about this too) but Alain vetoed it as per his contract hence why Hill was a last minute substitute. Then it was going to happen again for 1994 but Prost retired having won another championship. Frank and Alain Prost have each commented on these situations a few times.
Also good that he filled out the background to their dynamic, I remember reading that Prost was the one that urged Ron to sign Senna for 1988. And how it all came full circle towards the end, good to hear Ayrton's family was involved with Prost after his death. Also explains that radio message on the morning of Imola.
I've just recently got into this, I'm not going through in any particular order, just picking ones that I feel I'd be more interested in, currently I'm on the Hakkinen one.
I wasn't overly keen on the Barrichello, he seemed a bit self centred and bitter.
I wasn't overly keen on the Barrichello, he seemed a bit self centred and bitter.
Edited by HTP99 on Tuesday 5th May 10:07
HTP99 said:
I've just recently got into this, I'm not going through in any particular order, just picking ones that I feel I'd be more interested in, currently I'm on the Hakkinen one.
I wasn't overly keen on the Barrichello, he seemed a bit self centred and bitter.
Similar to Irvine, Herbert and maybe even Brundle. A year or two driving as Schumacher's team mate in his prime getting pummeled daily can't have been easy, whatever the financial rewards!I wasn't overly keen on the Barrichello, he seemed a bit self centred and bitter.
Edited by HTP99 on Tuesday 5th May 10:07
cgt2 said:
HTP99 said:
I've just recently got into this, I'm not going through in any particular order, just picking ones that I feel I'd be more interested in, currently I'm on the Hakkinen one.
I wasn't overly keen on the Barrichello, he seemed a bit self centred and bitter.
Similar to Irvine, Herbert and maybe even Brundle. A year or two driving as Schumacher's team mate in his prime getting pummeled daily can't have been easy, whatever the financial rewards!I wasn't overly keen on the Barrichello, he seemed a bit self centred and bitter.
Edited by HTP99 on Tuesday 5th May 10:07
Listening to Blundell's one, it's interesting that some drivers had signed up to teams just assuming they would be racing whereas they were actually only going to be testing, makes you wonder about what they though they were signing when it came to their contracts.
He also comes across as a really nice and straight talking guy, however probably too nice though.
HTP99 said:
I also didn't like the fact that he seemed to think that he was entitled to the championship that Jenson won he was very bitter about that too. His podcast gave me a very different view about him than I had before.
I think a sense of entitlement is a pre requisite to winning an F1 titleRuebens, I can see where you come from but it must be hard to believe you can do it and have the car but be hamstrung by having to play no2 at team-schurarri, then to unbelievably get your second bite of the cherry of being in the right car, only for buttons initial success/title chances really leaving the team little choice but to intervene in his favour. That's some real butt-hurt to deal with.
I found Barrichello likeable , decent and endearingly emotional. Self centred ? Not sure how you get to his level if you aren't. Bitter? Not at all - but like most drivers he might say 'regrets , I've had a few '.
I must admit that I've found most driver centred podcasts revealing and enjoyable - with the exception of some of Mansell's trademark whingeing . The Ecclestone 'interview ' was slightly better than I expected , as it wasn't quite all the sort of gnomic drivel I had expected .
I must admit that I've found most driver centred podcasts revealing and enjoyable - with the exception of some of Mansell's trademark whingeing . The Ecclestone 'interview ' was slightly better than I expected , as it wasn't quite all the sort of gnomic drivel I had expected .
Still enjoying the Podcast, I'd say I've listened to about 80-90% over the last 8 months, in no real order.
Only one I can think of that I didnt enjoy so much was the Lando Norris one, which is strange as I'm a big fan of his. He just didnt have much to say. I suppose everyone has good and bad days perhaps.
As some of the posters have said before, I'd like to hear more about the personal lives and other endeavors of the interviewees, without it having to stay to F1 quite so rigidly. This does happen on some of them though, and we get to hear about LeMans and their businesses.
Overall, great podcast.
Only one I can think of that I didnt enjoy so much was the Lando Norris one, which is strange as I'm a big fan of his. He just didnt have much to say. I suppose everyone has good and bad days perhaps.
As some of the posters have said before, I'd like to hear more about the personal lives and other endeavors of the interviewees, without it having to stay to F1 quite so rigidly. This does happen on some of them though, and we get to hear about LeMans and their businesses.
Overall, great podcast.
HTP99 said:
I also didn't like the fact that he seemed to think that he was entitled to the championship that Jenson won he was very bitter about that too. His podcast gave me a very different view about him than I had before.
Listening to Blundell's one, it's interesting that some drivers had signed up to teams just assuming they would be racing whereas they were actually only going to be testing, makes you wonder about what they though they were signing when it came to their contracts.
He also comes across as a really nice and straight talking guy, however probably too nice though.
My vague recollection is that he did perform more strongly than JB in the second half of the season but by that point JB had accumulated a hefty lead.Listening to Blundell's one, it's interesting that some drivers had signed up to teams just assuming they would be racing whereas they were actually only going to be testing, makes you wonder about what they though they were signing when it came to their contracts.
He also comes across as a really nice and straight talking guy, however probably too nice though.
I know MB in the real world. Lovely, genuine guy and very happy about his life in F1.
One of the best drives I've seen at this level was of Mark in FF1600 at Cadwell . It was a pure red mist , elbows out , get out of my f***g way recovery drive from the back of the field after being punted off in the opening laps. He probably doesn't remember it ,but I certainly do; that was in 85 , in the Abbey Life RF85
sgtBerbatov said:
I'd have liked to have heard about his experiences at Arrows and Prost. More so with Arrows, as it'd have been good to get an insight in to Tom Walkinshaw in this period too.
Thing is with these podcasts, they always seem to gravitate back to Michael Schumacher in one form or another. I know the man isn't well, but there is more to F1 than Schumacher.
Extraordinary talent will forever be fascinating. If it was about the 1960s it would be all about Clark yet Gurney would be overlooked and under-appreciated even though the American was the driver Clark most feared. Thing is with these podcasts, they always seem to gravitate back to Michael Schumacher in one form or another. I know the man isn't well, but there is more to F1 than Schumacher.
cgt2 said:
rallycross said:
I think this is the best one in the series, a fascinating chat with Julian Jacobi (manager of Senna, Prost and many other stars).
https://youtu.be/HswrdbM0q40
The interview is very much a focus on his relationship with Senna hence some very interesting comments, possibly the best thing I have learned about Senna.
Agreed, fills in context on a few things I read over the years and heard directly from two people I know who were close to Senna. https://youtu.be/HswrdbM0q40
The interview is very much a focus on his relationship with Senna hence some very interesting comments, possibly the best thing I have learned about Senna.
cgt2 said:
My vague recollection is that he did perform more strongly than JB in the second half of the season but by that point JB had accumulated a hefty lead.
Rubens was hampered by being on the wrong strategy more often than not in the first half of that season whereas JB's was more flexible and benefited him the most. Paranoia is a racing driver's own worst enemy. As much as I do think RB has sense of entitlement I do sympathise and he wears his heart on his sleeve
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