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belfry said:
Thanks for pointing out the latest Collecting Cars FF.
It's interesting that the ptu was replaced in 2019, with someone outside of the official ferrari network supplying a ptu for Joe Macari to install. Would this mean that a Ferrari warranty could not be applied to this car?
There is a "Electrical System Failure" warning on the dash after the start up in the video. I would have made sure that this issue was repaired before making a marketing video!
What do we imagine this is example will sell for?
The warning on the dash in the video is explained in the comments and seems plausible enough. The seller is extremely open to answering questions in the comments which is nice to see. It's interesting that the ptu was replaced in 2019, with someone outside of the official ferrari network supplying a ptu for Joe Macari to install. Would this mean that a Ferrari warranty could not be applied to this car?
There is a "Electrical System Failure" warning on the dash after the start up in the video. I would have made sure that this issue was repaired before making a marketing video!
What do we imagine this is example will sell for?
Edited by belfry on Thursday 16th March 15:53
Lovely car as well imo.
belfry said:
I have looked closely at this car, but I have been told by several owners that a black interior without a Pano roof makes the car feel very dark and sombre.
And there will be plenty who tell you that a black interior is essential for resale. If you’ve looked closely at the car then you’ll know if it’s too dark for you or not. Pano wasn’t on the options list for most of 2012 so if you want pano, you’ll have to buy newer.
I wouldn’t sweat the pano roof as the only people who benefit will be your rear seat passengers. I’ve driven pano equipped and pano-less cars and it really isn’t the game changer/deal breaker that seems to have become internet lore. It all boils down to a matter of personal preference. Some find it essential, others (like me) are indifferent and there are some who prefer a car without it.
belfry said:
I have looked closely at this car, but I have been told by several owners that a black interior without a Pano roof makes the car feel very dark and sombre.
It's currently around £83k with the fees. Is it likely to fetch much more than this?
I have an FF in argento with black interior / daytona seats, no pano and it used very regularly as a four seater (in fact it was bought for the job, because the 911 Turbo couldn’t do it and never got used as a result), and it is fine - it isn’t the brightest in the back, but apart from the chat on Pistonheads, I / the rear passengers don’t give it a second thought. For me the black daytona seats look spot on, and frankly don’t get tainted like some lighter colours might if some of your rear seat passengers are little ones who eat snacks / wear dark jeans. I also prefer the roof line in argento without the pano roof breaking it up.It's currently around £83k with the fees. Is it likely to fetch much more than this?
Kettmark said:
They all will at some point so I've been reliably informed.
And all DCT boxes will need a speed sensor and all shocks will leak and all cam gaskets will fail and all water pumps will leak and all CCMs will wear out at some point so I’ve been reliably informed. I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Edited by ANOpax on Wednesday 22 March 20:55
Kettmark said:
Not too bad as long as the ptu isn't going to go pearshaped driving it home.
Surely a PTU isn't £25k so even if it does, the buyer is still in good shape.I think the seller played a blinder with this one - very communicative and it clearly helped. I'm not sure I'd have been too happy with the seller providing everyone with the outcome of the PPI that I paid for though...
barchetta_boy said:
What’s the deal with CarPlay on the FF? And are there significant differences between early and late cars?
2015 was the changeover date for the upgraded head units. This car has the later head unit. https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14597861
It is better, in as much as it's tolerable unlike the earlier unit In my car which was simply awful. Do make sure it has Carplay though, it was an eyewateringly expensive option to add at the time. This was the first production car to get it.
I wouldn't let the head unit sway me over one car or another, but if all things were equal it could be a deciding factor.
Edited by 21ATS on Thursday 23 March 13:03
AyBee said:
Surely a PTU isn't £25k so even if it does, the buyer is still in good shape.
I think the seller played a blinder with this one - very communicative and it clearly helped. I'm not sure I'd have been too happy with the seller providing everyone with the outcome of the PPI that I paid for though...
£10k for a replacement upgraded PTU now from these people. That's fitted, drive in drive out - 24hrs.I think the seller played a blinder with this one - very communicative and it clearly helped. I'm not sure I'd have been too happy with the seller providing everyone with the outcome of the PPI that I paid for though...
https://www.parkesperformance.co.uk/2022/02/modifi...
belfry said:
I have looked closely at this car, but I have been told by several owners that a black interior without a Pano roof makes the car feel very dark and sombre.
It's currently around £83k with the fees. Is it likely to fetch much more than this?
I have a car with a pano roof, it was important to me.It's currently around £83k with the fees. Is it likely to fetch much more than this?
It's not a case of "it's better" when it comes to resale, it's just they sell a little easier. It's also one of the few options on these cars that seems to retain some value. So the cars with the glass roof often sell quicker and for a little more.
Or buy one without and pay less for the car, it's just personal.
I'm on the Kent Surrey border, if you want to come and look at my car to see if it matters to you, you're welcome to.
Grigio Titanio over Sabbia, no privacy, pano roof. BTW the suspension is raised in this image, it's quite a steep drive to get in and out of this property.
I am going to add, I've never owned a car that picks up paint chips on the front bumper as much as this one does!
Although I do drive mine year round, it's peppered and needs a repaint. I can see it's been done previously, and not very well so that might be a contributing factor.
I'm thinking of getting the bumper PPF'd after I've had it painted.
Although I do drive mine year round, it's peppered and needs a repaint. I can see it's been done previously, and not very well so that might be a contributing factor.
I'm thinking of getting the bumper PPF'd after I've had it painted.
Kettmark said:
Not too bad as long as the ptu isn't going to go pearshaped driving it home.
It took me 5 years to take the plunge on a V12 Ferrari (once I'd arraived at a point that I could actually buy one), I came up with all sort of very valid reasons why I shouldn't buy one and bought something more sensibile instead.But I still yearned for one.
Mine was actually a spontaneous purchase at the Festival of Speed, right place right time, just bought it there and then (subject to a PPI). It was nearly two months before I took delivery.
But, and this is a big but. I'd got comfortable with the fact that this car could throw a £10K to £20k bill if I was unlucky and I was entering with my eyes open. I also got comfortable with the fact if I needed a reason to get out of it quickly it was likely to "cost" £25K.
None of that (luckily) has so far materialsed and bar some minor hiccups (all covered under warranty) it's been less trouble than the Porsche Taycan I had by a country mile.
If the scary numbers make you feel uneasy, then you're just not ready for one. Sometimes it's got nothing to do with if you can afford it or not, it's just you've got to be comfortable with the fact it could occur.
I'll not own this car for life, I will eventually move it on and it will probably be my last special car, I'll be buying something sensible and practical most likely. But I'll have owned one, I wanted a V12 Ferrari since I saw a new 550 Maranello in London in the mid 90's. I've realised a dream and I'm enjoying it.
I'll look back and say "I did that and I'm glad I did". But it comes at a cost.
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