Sagaris Steering Arms

Sagaris Steering Arms

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mach2

224 posts

221 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Andy_mr2sc said:
Zinc plating (especially with a nickel plating first) gives superior corrosion resistance to powder coating. Powder coating is great until damp gets underneath it from cracking or abrasion and then it eventually peels off. Arguably more important is plating is much thinner so will not mess with the dimensional accuracy of the part. Powder coating can vary in thickness depending on the operator.
Thanks Andy. Interesting point. Talking only from my experience on my Tuscan, the existing plated steering arms are completely rusted on all faces exposed to the elements, yet the lower arm that supports the plated bracket is completely fine and it is powder coated. Hence my original question.

mk1fan

10,292 posts

212 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Nice work.

Would these fit my Honda?

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Sadly Stewart they won’t. At least, not where they are intended to fit!

Re. the plating, it depends of course on the quality of both. I have had some really crap powder coating that has cracked off in no time and just rusted up underneath. Equally I have seen some cheap and nasty zinc plating (the TVR arms you mention!) that doesn’t last 5 minutes either.
If these arms were powder coated, it would partially fill the location holes which would cause fitment issues, and doing the four bolts up could damage the coating causing water ingress.

mk1fan

10,292 posts

212 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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MCM reference biglaugh

Upgrade for a Tamora?

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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mk1fan said:
MCM reference biglaugh

Upgrade for a Tamora?
Ah sorry I’ve somehow managed to miss the whole mcm thing. A quick google has put me in the picture.

The sagaris arms work on some cars depending on wishbone set up, steering rack position, wheel type etc etc. As per most Tvr’s everyone seems different!

Basil Brush

4,869 posts

250 months

Monday 16th December 2019
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Are these straight copies of Sag arms or modified to suit later Tuscans and other T cars?

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Tuesday 17th December 2019
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They are dimensionally the same as the sag arms. They will physically fit on Tuscans and the T cars but whether it improves the geometry on a specific set up is the owner or fitters decision. From the discussions on here they seem to work on some cars better than others.

mk1fan

10,292 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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Interested. May take a punt on them working on Tamy (03 Tam). Marginally happy with your previous works biglaugh

m3jappa

5,976 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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I may be interested too.
Going to get my Tuscan back on the road this coming year and have a few jobs I’d like to do. Have always wanted to fit the sagaris arms as have read they improve the geometry.
Let me know 😃

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Wednesday 18th December 2019
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I’ve just sent a few sets to the platers today so it’s going to be a couple of weeks but I’ll let you know when they are here and I’ll have to work a final price out.

astonman

691 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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Hi ,I may well be interested in a pair.
What are they machined from please?
Cheers
simon.

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Thursday 19th December 2019
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They are machined from 080A15 steel, or EN32B as it used to be called under the old BS standards. It's a commonly used free cutting bright mild steel.

I did think about a Titanium option, but the material cost alone would be eye wateringly expensive!

Edited by Andy_mr2sc on Thursday 19th December 08:48

Basil Brush

4,869 posts

250 months

Friday 20th December 2019
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Could you measure how much the arms lower the track rod end compared to the straight arms please?

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
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Basil Brush said:
Could you measure how much the arms lower the track rod end compared to the straight arms please?
The offset is 25.5mm but the ball joint is turned upside down so the steering arm offset will be less than this. I am afraid I do not have the figures as I simply copied an existing Sag arm as these seem to be the 'go to' part.
As said above the car's seem to vary a lot depending on age, setup, other mods etc so trying to find the perfect dimensions would be impossible unless a complete kit was developed and sold.

astonman

691 posts

197 months

Saturday 21st December 2019
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I personally would have gone for a billet of EN24T.

Sagi Badger

554 posts

180 months

Sunday 22nd December 2019
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En 8 walks this. I use en 24 for shafts, caps etc. The standard items don’t feel like anything special. The stresses are quite low and anyway the item they are bolted to is soft as toffee. The pic of the produced item, reverse engineered or whatever it is called these days, looks good.
Just my bit anyway.

Andy_mr2sc

1,194 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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Exactly John there are no moving parts and there are other suspension parts that will break long before this lump does.
Regarding the shape I've just tried to make them a bit more interesting and modern than the rather plain 2d machined standard ones.

astonman

691 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Just my personal preference,EN24T and don't bother with plating.Just a dust with satin black and rub over with an oily rag before fitting.
A price on plain EN24T as above would be appreciated.

bubblebobble

Original Poster:

372 posts

176 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Original final version where EN8M.

astonman

691 posts

197 months

Saturday 28th December 2019
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EN16T another good/ better option?