BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022
Discussion
ch37 said:
The BBC said "We have sincerely apologised to Freddie and will continue to support him with his recovery."
That struck me a bit as I don't recall seeing statements like that in the past (but I may be wrong), where they explicitly apologised following an accident. Very strange.
Where there's blame there's a claim. That struck me a bit as I don't recall seeing statements like that in the past (but I may be wrong), where they explicitly apologised following an accident. Very strange.
ch37 said:
The BBC said "We have sincerely apologised to Freddie and will continue to support him with his recovery."
That struck me a bit as I don't recall seeing statements like that in the past (but I may be wrong), where they explicitly apologised following an accident. Very strange.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-65056723That struck me a bit as I don't recall seeing statements like that in the past (but I may be wrong), where they explicitly apologised following an accident. Very strange.
I don’t get the radio silence from Freddie.
It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
TTmonkey said:
I don’t get the radio silence from Freddie.
It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
Possibly on advice from his legal team?It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
Dashnine said:
Red 5 said:
the BBC isn’t a business so profit is less of an issue.
Really? Given all we hear about budgets, TV licences and costs you think it’s not a business? Off topic I know.ETA: Also the recent cuts announced in BBC musical meaning quite a lot of people will be losing their salaried jobs is pretty much business like.
suffolk009 said:
I'm sad that the BBC appear to have decided to axe the show completely
Where’ve you heard that? TG is a huge earner for the BBC overseas as well as still popular in the UK. We even got so see what was in the can after CHM had left, I imagine a reboot or presenter change is on the way again and we’ll get to see whatever’s been filmed so far for Series 34 at some point too, maybe even the Morgan sequence too.Edited by Dashnine on Friday 24th March 06:54
The BBC is effectively a Gov.Dpt and is funded primarily by us lot paying the TV licence.
This has been an advantage in a lot of ways, as the BBC has been able to spend on projects that whale have social and entertainment value, that no commercial entity would embark upon. Just ask David Attenborough.
Yes, they have a finite amount of this money, to like any organisation, have to budget and adjust the size of their workforce to suit conditions.
The fact that TG earns profit for the BBC in other territories, does NOT mean they have to keep it about, if it doesn’t’ suit their political (somebody mentioned woke) agenda.
MDifficult said:
Somewhat unrelated to the current Flintoff focus but…
It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still s
t. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off.
But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
YES!!!!!!Chris and Matt searching for Bigfoot was the bromance we never knew we needed….It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still s
t. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off. But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
Thee have been some brilliant episodes since ChM left. Ethiopia in their “first cars”, the HGV episode, the Eddie Kidd tribute, the mid life crisis with the TVR/MR2/Monaro at Combe, the James Bond tribute, the LeBaron, India in that Renault 4, the Jaguar hearse…..
Problem is people will hate it simply because it’s not ChM, forgetting that there were some truly terrible episodes in that era, just because they need another thing in life to be angry about….
pablo said:
YES!!!!!!Chris and Matt searching for Bigfoot was the bromance we never knew we needed….
Thee have been some brilliant episodes since ChM left. Ethiopia in their “first cars”, the HGV episode, the Eddie Kidd tribute, the mid life crisis with the TVR/MR2/Monaro at Combe, the James Bond tribute, the LeBaron, India in that Renault 4, the Jaguar hearse…..
Problem is people will hate it simply because it’s not ChM, forgetting that there were some truly terrible episodes in that era, just because they need another thing in life to be angry about….
Like ranting on a forum?Thee have been some brilliant episodes since ChM left. Ethiopia in their “first cars”, the HGV episode, the Eddie Kidd tribute, the mid life crisis with the TVR/MR2/Monaro at Combe, the James Bond tribute, the LeBaron, India in that Renault 4, the Jaguar hearse…..
Problem is people will hate it simply because it’s not ChM, forgetting that there were some truly terrible episodes in that era, just because they need another thing in life to be angry about….
pablo said:
MDifficult said:
Somewhat unrelated to the current Flintoff focus but…
It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still st. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off.
But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
YES!!!!!!Chris and Matt searching for Bigfoot was the bromance we never knew we needed….It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still s
t. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off. But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
Thee have been some brilliant episodes since ChM left. Ethiopia in their “first cars”, the HGV episode, the Eddie Kidd tribute, the mid life crisis with the TVR/MR2/Monaro at Combe, the James Bond tribute, the LeBaron, India in that Renault 4, the Jaguar hearse…..
Problem is people will hate it simply because it’s not ChM, forgetting that there were some truly terrible episodes in that era, just because they need another thing in life to be angry about….
FiF said:
pablo said:
MDifficult said:
Somewhat unrelated to the current Flintoff focus but…
It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still st. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off.
But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
YES!!!!!!Chris and Matt searching for Bigfoot was the bromance we never knew we needed….It’s amazing how things change with time. I happened to re-watch that series that was mainly Chris Harris and Matt LeBlanc doing things together while Rory Reid did his own bits.
It was actually pretty good! Yes SIARPC was still s
t. And yes, both Matt and Chris’s banter in front of the studio audience was excruciating. And yes, the wonderful Sabine (RIP) made me want to claw my ears off. But! Both Matt and Chris seemed like genuinely good friends, had moments of unscripted and unforced ‘banter’, both can really drive and lots of the films of them apart and together were really good. Again, in hindsight, Rory is excellent - an actual car journalist! He really did get a raw deal being binned for the new lot.
I suspect that we may not see TG reappear in its current guise any time soon - Chris is open that he’ll milk it for as long as he can but has lots of money-making opportunities with his growing CC empire. Clearly Freddie is having second thoughts and will always have other work, and Paddy always comes across as a presenter/entertainer rather than a passionate car guy and he’ll be off doing other things.
Should it be re-born or just quietly die? Don’t really mind either way.
Thee have been some brilliant episodes since ChM left. Ethiopia in their “first cars”, the HGV episode, the Eddie Kidd tribute, the mid life crisis with the TVR/MR2/Monaro at Combe, the James Bond tribute, the LeBaron, India in that Renault 4, the Jaguar hearse…..
Problem is people will hate it simply because it’s not ChM, forgetting that there were some truly terrible episodes in that era, just because they need another thing in life to be angry about….
TTmonkey said:
I don’t get the radio silence from Freddie.
It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
Does anyone know what happened or what he was driving?It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
Blackpuddin said:
It needed to be raised, he was short on personality.
Again, with the benefit of some hindsight I think that's a little unfair. The stuff he did before and since TG shows the guy is chock-full of personality (but you have to be on Youtube to see any of it). I think he probably felt he needed to 'tone it down' for the big job on the BBC and maybe went a little too far but he's a good egg. Pflanzgarten said:
TTmonkey said:
I don’t get the radio silence from Freddie.
It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
Does anyone know what happened or what he was driving?It’s almost as bad as when Schumacher was hurt, the lack of knowing and levels of secrecy.
I’m going to guess at facial injuries given the type of vehicle he crashed. He’s too big a guy to roll one of those and not get serious head trauma of some kind.
Even the driving talents of Tiff nearly rolled one (while deliberately dicking-about in it) so it shows it perhaps wasn't ideal for someone with Freddie's more limited talents and laissez-faire attitude to risk.
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