Angela Cullen and Lewis go their separate ways
Discussion
Cold said:
maz8062 said:
When some folk have strong feelings against a particular person it’s not always for reasons such as racism, prejudice, jealousy or whatever, sometimes people just don’t like someone and can’t always explain why. I’m an LH fan, have always been and still am, but it doesn’t mean that I can’t say that there are certain things about him that are odd.
There are certain people in the paddock that really hate LH, hate. Marko is one as is Alonso, Bernie, JYS, Max, Piquet, Lando, Rosberg and a section of the McLaren team when he was up against Alonso. Now, it’s easy to just swat it away as racism, jealousy, prejudice or whatever but I believe there’s more to it. None of his peers view him as the best, like Messi or Ronaldo are viewed as the best in Football, Valentino Rossi in MotoGP, Ali in Boxing, Bolt in sprinting, Woods in golf etc. But the fans do. I think he’s the GOAT but his peers don’t. Who knows best?
Can you remember when someone mentioned the name Frank Tost and he didn’t know who he was despite Franz being the AT TP since 2005. It shows that LH loves driving F1 cars and likes the reach that the sport gives him, but he has no interest in F1. He doesn’t make an effort other than to polarise, take digs at the other teams that are faster.
We human beings are weird. If we work with someone day in and day out, admire them for their talent and skill, but don’t understand or relate to them, or think that they’re not making an effort to be inclusive, admiration turns into hate. LH is not popular with his peers or with the sport as a whole - I hope he turns this around before he retires or he’ll find it difficult to feel welcome when he returns after retirement.
Lando really hating Lewis while playing a round of golf, yesterday.There are certain people in the paddock that really hate LH, hate. Marko is one as is Alonso, Bernie, JYS, Max, Piquet, Lando, Rosberg and a section of the McLaren team when he was up against Alonso. Now, it’s easy to just swat it away as racism, jealousy, prejudice or whatever but I believe there’s more to it. None of his peers view him as the best, like Messi or Ronaldo are viewed as the best in Football, Valentino Rossi in MotoGP, Ali in Boxing, Bolt in sprinting, Woods in golf etc. But the fans do. I think he’s the GOAT but his peers don’t. Who knows best?
Can you remember when someone mentioned the name Frank Tost and he didn’t know who he was despite Franz being the AT TP since 2005. It shows that LH loves driving F1 cars and likes the reach that the sport gives him, but he has no interest in F1. He doesn’t make an effort other than to polarise, take digs at the other teams that are faster.
We human beings are weird. If we work with someone day in and day out, admire them for their talent and skill, but don’t understand or relate to them, or think that they’re not making an effort to be inclusive, admiration turns into hate. LH is not popular with his peers or with the sport as a whole - I hope he turns this around before he retires or he’ll find it difficult to feel welcome when he returns after retirement.
As for the Piquet/Max/Alonso group they have also been involved in big title fights with him (or are family) - it’s natural they won’t like each other after that normally. Give it some years and some of them may heal a bit, like you see for some rivals once they stop. I think Vettel and Lewis arrived at a truce when they stopped being direct rivals and focused more on their social issues comments/work.
NRS said:
I think Vettel and Lewis arrived at a truce when they stopped being direct rivals and focused more on their social issues comments/work.
Vettel has said himself he's chilled out a lot more in the last couple of years, as when in competition with other drivers he didn't want friendships as he needed the edge that not having them gave him.MustangGT said:
I used to work with an ex pit team member of McLaren who was there when Lewis joined. The information I have is that he was a bit of a diva in 2007. However, in 2008 he addressed that issue and by 2009 was a very likeable person to work with.
My former neighbor works at Mclaren in Woking and he had nothing but praise for Lewis as a person when he was there. Always willing to come and meet the entire factory team, take photos etc. It was his young sons birthday at one race and Lewis made a point of having him sit in his car and get his photo taken. I would take that opinion over some crap written by someone who has likely never even met him.P1Fanatic said:
MustangGT said:
I used to work with an ex pit team member of McLaren who was there when Lewis joined. The information I have is that he was a bit of a diva in 2007. However, in 2008 he addressed that issue and by 2009 was a very likeable person to work with.
My former neighbor works at Mclaren in Woking and he had nothing but praise for Lewis as a person when he was there. Always willing to come and meet the entire factory team, take photos etc. It was his young sons birthday at one race and Lewis made a point of having him sit in his car and get his photo taken. I would take that opinion over some crap written by someone who has likely never even met him.I think with many drivers there are two personas
The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
MustangGT said:
P1Fanatic said:
MustangGT said:
I used to work with an ex pit team member of McLaren who was there when Lewis joined. The information I have is that he was a bit of a diva in 2007. However, in 2008 he addressed that issue and by 2009 was a very likeable person to work with.
My former neighbor works at Mclaren in Woking and he had nothing but praise for Lewis as a person when he was there. Always willing to come and meet the entire factory team, take photos etc. It was his young sons birthday at one race and Lewis made a point of having him sit in his car and get his photo taken. I would take that opinion over some crap written by someone who has likely never even met him.vaud said:
I think with many drivers there are two personas
The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
I was going to Ao Nang in Thailand for Christmas in 2004, but decided against it due to traffic/too busy. Three of my ex-gf friends lost their life in the Tsunami.The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
Schumi donated US$10 million if my memory is correct. Not a fan of some of his antics in, but a great person out of the car...
P1Fanatic said:
MustangGT said:
I used to work with an ex pit team member of McLaren who was there when Lewis joined. The information I have is that he was a bit of a diva in 2007. However, in 2008 he addressed that issue and by 2009 was a very likeable person to work with.
My former neighbor works at Mclaren in Woking and he had nothing but praise for Lewis as a person when he was there. Always willing to come and meet the entire factory team, take photos etc. It was his young sons birthday at one race and Lewis made a point of having him sit in his car and get his photo taken. I would take that opinion over some crap written by someone who has likely never even met him.My gut feeling is that Lewis is a cracking bloke, in fact it feels like most of these guys would be absolute fine to hang out for a beer.
PhilAsia said:
vaud said:
I think with many drivers there are two personas
The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
I was going to Ao Nang in Thailand for Christmas in 2004, but decided against it due to traffic/too busy. Three of my ex-gf friends lost their life in the Tsunami.The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
Schumi donated US$10 million if my memory is correct. Not a fan of some of his antics in, but a great person out of the car...
http://www.f1speedwriter.com/2012/10/michaels-drea...
Dashnine said:
NRS said:
I think Vettel and Lewis arrived at a truce when they stopped being direct rivals and focused more on their social issues comments/work.
Vettel has said himself he's chilled out a lot more in the last couple of years, as when in competition with other drivers he didn't want friendships as he needed the edge that not having them gave him.vaud said:
I think with many drivers there are two personas
The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
Kimi being probably one of the most famous recent ones with a "dual personality" - apparently a huge laugh in person out of the public eye, but proper Finish doesn't give a sThe public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
t in terms of media stuff. 
Siao said:
PhilAsia said:
vaud said:
I think with many drivers there are two personas
The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
I was going to Ao Nang in Thailand for Christmas in 2004, but decided against it due to traffic/too busy. Three of my ex-gf friends lost their life in the Tsunami.The public persona that may have many layers of "defence" - layers they can put up or down depending on the situation and moment.
The private persona which is often quite different. The private Michael Schumacher and Ayrton Senna are good examples.
Senna was a deeply spiritual person who gave a lot of money to the poor, but he would happily run a rival off the track.
Schumacher did a lot of private events, charity work, donations, etc to support causes, he just didn't publicise them.
Schumi donated US$10 million if my memory is correct. Not a fan of some of his antics in, but a great person out of the car...
http://www.f1speedwriter.com/2012/10/michaels-drea...
Dashnine said:
Fundoreen said:
It has to be asked . Is mikey muscles still jensons trainer? If he was let go it must have been an equal shock or betrayal.
Also if someone keeps calling you mikey muscles is it a problem when you want a new job? You have to keep putting that on your resumeee. What if you decide you want to be some big city trader for someplace like credit suisse? Do you have to apply as mikey muscles?
No, he’s head of the physio team at McLaren (some fancy title like Head of Human Performance) I saw or read recently.Also if someone keeps calling you mikey muscles is it a problem when you want a new job? You have to keep putting that on your resumeee. What if you decide you want to be some big city trader for someplace like credit suisse? Do you have to apply as mikey muscles?
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