Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?

Anyone have an outlook for old Sports Series range?

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ex-devonpaul

950 posts

124 months

Sunday 19th March
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Not much 570GT action on the list, although the grey one at McBrum is showing as 'Deposit taken'.
Interesting it sold quite quickly, in preference to the blue one that has a lot lower mileage but has been there since before Xmas. Blue one is lower spec - doesn't list the stereo upgrade, GT pack, chromatic roof, and comfort entry (anyone care to tell me what that is?). Perhaps spec does trump colour on these.

Grey_Area said:
It would be interesting to see if anyone has compared trade in losses on a car, with projected long term ownership costs/values of higher mileage cars; wonder if there’s any correlation.
Also be interesting to see an idea of £/mile. There are a lot of cars from certain manufacturers that owners seem to ration the mileage in order to preserve value.

Even their F1 team was at it last weekend.

Davyt

369 posts

5 months

Sunday 19th March
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I think comfort entry us something the electric seats do ( if you’ve got them) , they move themselves back easing entry / exit,,

DRZ

124 posts

139 months

Sunday 19th March
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Davyt said:
I think comfort entry us something the electric seats do ( if you’ve got them) , they move themselves back easing entry / exit,,
This is exactly what it is. I have it on my GT and I don't think I'd be without it. Getting in/out of the 720S (which had manual seats) without it was a right PITA.

samoht

4,441 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th March
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Comfort Entry is something both electric seats and electric steering column can be set to do if you have them. Seats slide back as stated, steering column lifts to the highest position and retracts, also to give a bit more space.

It surprised me on a test drive, I parked the car on an incline, opened the door to get out and I felt like the car was rolling backwards down the hill! But it was just the seat motoring backwards.

I have both on mine... and leave it turned off, I don't find it too bad getting out as long as I can get the doors fully open.

The lower spec blue car has the electric seats (as pretty much all GTs do) but doesn't claim the electric column too.

I wouldn't assume that everyone prefers blue to grey, I would but I think some ppl prefer the grey, so it may not have been spec over colour / mileage, may have been personal preference on the colour.

Personally if a car's in great condition I wouldn't hold much preference for 4k miles over 14k miles.

ex-devonpaul

950 posts

124 months

Sunday 19th March
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DRZ said:
This is exactly what it is. I have it on my GT and I don't think I'd be without it. Getting in/out of the 720S (which had manual seats) without it was a right PITA.
That's what I thought - it was described in the spec "Power Adjust Steering Column with Comfort Entry-Exit", which made me think it was just the steering column that moved. Surely anything with memory seats can do the same at the touch of a button.

samoht

4,441 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th March
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ex-devonpaul said:
That's what I thought - it was described in the spec "Power Adjust Steering Column with Comfort Entry-Exit", which made me think it was just the steering column that moved. Surely anything with memory seats can do the same at the touch of a button.
McLaren electric seats can be set to motor back when you get in and out.
McLaren electric steering columns can be set to motor in and up when you get in and out.
Each of these (separate) functions are described as "Comfort Entry-Exit"

AFAIK a car can have either or both electric seats and/or column, and each will have the entry/exit functionality independently of the other.

Of the cars discussed, both advertise electric seats so would have the seat moving option. Only the grey car advertises electric steering column too, but if interested in the blue car and if you cared, it would be worth checking as they might not have mentioned it.

RSbandit

2,219 posts

119 months

Sunday 19th March
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The comfort entry exit is all good until the seat module fails and the seat is stuck in the fully back position...ask me how I know this?! P1 buckets don't carry this risk!

BlackR8

433 posts

64 months

Sunday 19th March
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samoht said:
Comfort Entry is something both electric seats and electric steering column can be set to do if you have them. Seats slide back as stated, steering column lifts to the highest position and retracts, also to give a bit more space.
Is it safe to assume that any Sports Series car with Lux Pack would have the full comfort entry/exit option?

I noticed that a lot of the Sports Series cars don't have the Luxury pack optioned and on seeing the option price new at circa £7k so it was a fair bit of money. In contrast seems like the Security pack is optioned on nearly all the cars.


samoht

4,441 posts

133 months

Sunday 19th March
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Comfort Entry/Exit can be turned off if you don't want it or don't want to risk it getting stuck.

BlackR8 said:
Is it safe to assume that any Sports Series car with Lux Pack would have the full comfort entry/exit option?

I noticed that a lot of the Sports Series cars don't have the Luxury pack optioned and on seeing the option price new at circa £7k so it was a fair bit of money. In contrast seems like the Security pack is optioned on nearly all the cars.
In the 570S brochure PDF I have, Luxury Pack is defined as including both electric heated seats and the electric steering column, so yes Lux Pack = both electric and therefore 'full' comfort entry/exit. In the GT brochure there is no luxury pack, but the electric steering column is in the GT Upgrade pack along with the 12 speaker audio. The electric seats were standard equipment on the GT by the end of the run, not sure about earlier on (specs changed for 2018 at least).

However all the options are also listed separately as well as in packs, so you can't assume that a car with one element of a given pack necessarily has all of them, although I think most buyers bought packs rather than individual options by and large.


When making decisions on this I'd strongly suggest trying to view and sit in a few cars, even if they aren't ones you want to buy. Seating is very personal, the electric seats are a lot higher than the manual adjust ones which may or may not work for you, and that's before you start considering the various bucket options.

f1z

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1 month

Sunday 19th March
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Brett3 said:
I think my PH email address is now out of date unfortunately. Dont know how to change it.
Hi Brett, i received your email but i believe you wrote your new updated email incorrectly as its not allowing me to send. Could you send me another private message here but with your phone number so i can message you

Thanks

Brett3

1,119 posts

71 months

Sunday 19th March
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Hopefully now corrected smile

Mwn11

31 posts

54 months

Wednesday
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Rang up about the Orange 570s at McBrum. Sounds nice, lots of carbon on it and low miles but the big 6 year service is due in November.

Does anyone know how much this has cost them recently?

BlackR8

433 posts

64 months

Wednesday
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Mwn11 said:
Rang up about the Orange 570s at McBrum. Sounds nice, lots of carbon on it and low miles but the big 6 year service is due in November.

Does anyone know how much this has cost them recently?
It looks a very nice car. I understand the 6th year service is around £2.5k at a McDealer, but I am sure others can confirm.

That car has an excellent exterior spec assuming you like carbon, but worth noting incase it is important to you that it doesn't seem to have any of the internal luxuries so has manual seats, manual steering column, basic 4 speaker stereo, no heated seats etc.

davek_964

8,129 posts

162 months

Wednesday
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BlackR8 said:
It looks a very nice car. I understand the 6th year service is around £2.5k at a McDealer, but I am sure others can confirm.
From posts I've seen, I think that is the big one - can't remember why.

It's curious that people sometimes comment that sports series are cheaper to run than super series. For warranty costs, that is true - but the super series (at least 12C / 650) - doesn't have that massive jump in service cost at 6 years. While I owned mine, I had 5th, 6th and 7th year services and they were all much the same (~£1,100).

Purso

820 posts

89 months

Wednesday
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just had my 6th year service at ascot 675 lts and it was £1400

Mwn11

31 posts

54 months

Wednesday
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BlackR8 said:
It looks a very nice car. I understand the 6th year service is around £2.5k at a McDealer, but I am sure others can confirm.

That car has an excellent exterior spec assuming you like carbon, but worth noting incase it is important to you that it doesn't seem to have any of the internal luxuries so has manual seats, manual steering column, basic 4 speaker stereo, no heated seats etc.
Had missed that tbh. What are peoples opinions on that one vs the track pack one at AB.?

Have an Exige atm so the carbon buckets I can live with.

Streetbeat

627 posts

63 months

Wednesday
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Track pack, the p1 seats are just so comfortable, plus the other few bits the track pack benefits from.

Davyt

369 posts

5 months

Wednesday
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Track pack for me also, P1 seats will make the car feel extra special every time you sit in it, Grandad seats just don’t do it !!

BlackR8

433 posts

64 months

Wednesday
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It's a tough call as the track pack car has nearly 14k more miles than the car you posted. Not sure how McLaren resale is impacted by miles, probably not as sensitive as say Ferrari but my guess is that the miles would still be a factor to consider. There is a similar post about a 720S on another thread which has similar miles and despite the great colour and spec it has sat for months unsold at a dealer, whether that is due to the miles I don't know.

Davyt

369 posts

5 months

Wednesday
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Hardly high mileage on the AB car at 5 1/2 years old even by McLaren standards, I’d be more concerned about a car that probably hasn’t turned a wheel for months on end tbh,,