4 Post Lift Recommendation

4 Post Lift Recommendation

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RichB

49,086 posts

271 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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I was at the Classic Car show at the NEC last month and chatted to the chaps on Strongman stand. They are certainly well made but as you say pricy. ONe thing they did point out is that some models have a lower entry height. The ramps on one model were approx 150mm off the ground whereas a more expensive one designed differently was only 100mm. This, he said made it of more interest to owners of low sports cars.

Andrew Gray

4,955 posts

136 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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There is an option i had not considered as i was not aware that a Two post lift gives much more flexibility.

Firstly the width can be altered with different cables so it can be made to fit most garage widths.

Also there are platforms that you can buy that go on the arms that allow you to park a car sitting on the wheels which when storing a car some prefer.

I can find a picture of one operating but this one has the option of adding them

I always said i would do a 4 post in the other garage when i re build however i would now go for this option

http://www.garageequipment.co.uk/Garage-Lifts/2-Po...

Andrew

RichB

49,086 posts

271 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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Where would you position the lifting pads Andrew on, say, a TVR? I'd be loath to put them under the outrigers and there's not much else is there?

Mr Nordic

Original Poster:

346 posts

222 months

Monday 5th December 2016
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Hi Jjlnl,

Having searched for over a year to decide on what one to purchase, I can say that having had the lift for some time I am really pleased with it and represents great value for money, I can't fault it in anyway it has been much better than I expected.

The one thing that takes some getting use to is holding the lock mechanism lever when lowering whilst holding the down button, this obviously keeps the cost down and the need for an airline to operate the locks. It is not a problem just need to get accustomed to it and it isn't hard at all.

I double stack the cars quite often and the ramp comes with oil drip trays which protect the car below, the optional SJR jacking beam is also very good.

I would definitely recommend the whole thing.

Mr N

jjlnl

157 posts

114 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Andrew, Thanks for your thoughts, initially that was my thoughts, but, most of them come with posts that are 2 high.

My only restriction on width is how far it eats into my workbench area.

Mr Nordic, it's good to hear your happy with your decision. How was delivery, did you need any lifting equipment? and Did you install it yourself?

I'm an engineer by trade, so have above average skills, and would look to install it myself.

Mr Nordic

Original Poster:

346 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Hi jjnl,

I was going to do exactly the same but when you factor the shipping to house cost (delivered or collect hiring a flatbed truck or trailer), the cost to have it delivered and installed was reasonable.
I had a call with another PH user that had his installed and on his recommendation I used the delivery and install team.

The guys that delivered it 3 of them travelled in a flatbed truck and brought with them a Genie crane. The ramp with the ram inside is too heavy for 3 of them to lift.
The install guys were good and exactly as our fellow PH member recommended, as much as I wanted to install it, it was handy having the guys that install these all the time to point out the dos and don'ts.

So glad I did.

Overall I was going to buy a Bendpak but so glad I didn't, this lift gave me supplied, delivered and installed plus saving £4K in overall cost.
I can't believe they can make ship to U.K. And install this list with a jacking beam for the price.

Good luck

wuckfitracing

989 posts

130 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Fitted my automotech myself, likewise engineer by trade. Bloody heavy on your own but with the help of an engine crane managed it. Hit rebar in the floor and still need to fix another bolt in but its very secure.

Timja

1,888 posts

196 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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I plan to buy a 4 post lift next year once I have built my garage so would be interested in any group buy or just opinions and experiences. I have spoken to SJR and heard good things about them so that was my plan at the moment. Garage has been designed around a lift that goes to 1.9m high with a sports car on top!

Andrew Gray

4,955 posts

136 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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RichB said:
Where would you position the lifting pads Andrew on, say, a TVR? I'd be loath to put them under the outrigers and there's not much else is there?
Thats what i thought
However with the added platform the car is resting on the wheels
You can also fabricate a bar that will allow the car to rest on the main Chassis rails
A

Barreti

6,680 posts

224 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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jjlnl did you get the lift you were looking for last year?

I have a manual life (HAMER) but after working on the floor this weekend because I couldn't be bothered jacking the ramp up to the height I needed it for working on Mrs Bs brakes I've decided I really should get rid of the manual ramps now I have power in the garage.

I'm looking at the SJR Model 2S because its roughly the same size as my HAMER and wondered if how you got on.
Has anyone else got an SJR lift who wants to offer their thoughts?
I'll also consider the optional jacking beam - has anyone else got one? How much are they and are they worth it?


Barreti

6,680 posts

224 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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For anyone else looking in, here is the details I've got for comparison between companies

HAMER Lift dimensions
Here are its dimensions and the letter codes

3500 ramp length (R) or 3900 (L)
2000 width (P) 2400 (W)
And
2300 width (P) 2700 (W)

R measured from centre line to centre line of the front and back beams (Hamer badged)
L is outside to outside of front and back foot

P is from centre line to centre line of left and right side rails
W is outside to outside of left and right foot.

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SJR garage equipment

info@sjrgarageequipment.co.uk
...01744 732 003....0788 755 3831
ebay shop : The-garage-equipment-man
Better to contact me on masie@talktalk.net or by phone !! 01744 732003
or 0788 755 3831

SPACESAVER 4 POST MOBILE
BACK SOON
3.3m runway lift is only 2.5 wide overall lifting height of 1.9 m and
designed for smaller cars in smaller spaces.
DRIP TRAYS , CASTER SET JACK TRAY ARE ALL INCLUDED IN THE PRICE.
£1848.00

MODEL 1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< This is currently my second choice
PARKING SERVICE MAINTENANCE LIFT RAMP 4 POST SPACE SAVER MOBILE
3.3m runway (platform) is only 2.5 wide overall and designed for smaller cars in smaller spaces.
Lifts up to 3.7 tonnnes comfortably.
Can be secured to the floor (bolts included) or left free standing and moved around or indeed outside with the use of the (included in price) caster set and can also be user as a service, repair , maintenance lift.
Also included in price are the drip trays and the metal jack / tool tray .
Specially made hydraulic jacking beams are available as an optional extra..
£1918.80 incl VAT

Model 2
4 post short narrow
4.0 platforms runway length x 2.5 wide O/A and 3600kg lifting capacity.
£1738.80 incl VAT


Model 2S <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< This is currently my FIRST choice
Delivery is not included.
NEW MODEL
PARKING SERVICE MAINTENANCE LIFT RAMP 4 POST MOBILE
This 3.6m runway lift is only 2.5 wide overall and designed to fit where 3.3m is too short and 4.0m too long .
Lifts up to 3.6 tonnes comfortably.
Can be secured to the floor (bolts included) or left freestanding and moved around or indeed outside with the use of the ( ncluded in price) castor set.
Also included in price are the drip trays and the metal jack / tool tray.
Specially made hydraulic jacking beams are available as an optional extra.
Lifts in stock , RED/YELLOW
£1728 (£1448 + VAT)

Model 3S
Parking service lift
This 3.6m runway ( platform ) lift is only 2.6 wide overall and designed for shorter spaces.
Lifts up to 3.7 tonnes comfortably .
Also included in price are the drip trays and the metal jack / tool tray.
Specially made hydraulic jacking beams are available as
an optional extra.
£1728

Model 4
service lift
4.2 platforms x 2.6 wide O/A and 3600kg lifting capacity.
£1798.80

Model 5
storage service lift
4.9 platforms x 3.1 wide O/A , 2.1 lifting and 4200 kg lifting capacity.
£2158.80

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Strongman
Strongman Glenfinnan - Compact 4 post lift
3.5 long x 2.5 wide : Platform length 3120mm
Max lift height 1800mm
16A fuse required
£3,055 incl VAT

Extras
Drip Trays (£240.00)
Manual Jacking Beam (£625.00)


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Automotech

AS-4T36S
Short 4-post car lift
£1,944.00 Buy it now on ebay



• 3600 Kg capacity lift
• Full mobile wheel kit included
• 3pcs oil drip trays included
• 1pcs jack tray included
• Floor bolts included
• 3200mm lift bed with removable long drive up ramps (790mm)
• Low maintenance due to hydraulic design
• Safety lock in each post + cable fail safety lock in each post + hydraulic anti surge valve
• Fully C.E. approved
• Low voltage control systems (as required)

• Lifting capacity 3600Kg (vehicle lift)
• Minimum height 210 mm
• Maximum lifting height 1900mm
• Lift bed length 3200mm
• Overall length 3460mm +790mm for drive up ramps (4250mm)
• Overall height 2237mm
• Overall width 2630mm
• Platform width 474mm
• Installation can also be arranged
• Goods released on receipt of payment



AS-4T36
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-POST-CAR-LIFT-VEHICLE-...
£1,824.00

KEY FEATURES

• 3600 Kg capacity lift
• Full mobile wheel kit included
• 3pcs oil drip trays included
• 1pcs jack tray included
• Floor bolts included
• 4000mm lift bed with long drive up ramps (790mm)
• Low maintenance due to hydraulic design
• Safety lock in each post + cable fail safety lock + anti surge valve
• Fully C.E. approved
• Low voltage control systems (as required)

SPECIFICATION

• Lifting capacity 3600Kg (vehicle lift)
• Minimum height 210 mm
• Maximum lifting height 1900mm
• Lift bed length 4000mm
• Overall length 4460mm +790mm for drive up ramps (5250mm)
• Overall height 2237mm
• Overall width 2630mm
• Platform width 474mm
• Installation can also be arranged
• Goods released on receipt of payment

julian64

13,860 posts

241 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I think this depends on what you want the lift for. The four posts look good for storage but I wouldn't give you thank you for one as a work tool.

Number of time I've had to remove wheel bearings, CV joints, and generally replace lower arms etc. All of which is a PITA with a four poster even with a jack

Barreti

6,680 posts

224 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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what would you recommend instead Julian64 ?

I'm more than happy to listen to other ideas
Oh, unless its a 2 post because I don't have a 1000mm concrete pad to bolt it to and I don't want to create one.

julian64

13,860 posts

241 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Barreti said:
what would you recommend instead Julian64 ?

I'm more than happy to listen to other ideas
Oh, unless its a 2 post because I don't have a 1000mm concrete pad to bolt it to and I don't want to create one.
I didn't have a 1000mm concrete pad or anything like it. I think you are comparing industrial use with home use. Mine has a central tunnel and is bolted into the floor.

But even said it isn't the end of the world to chop out a section of floor down to a meter if you really want it. Its only going to be a days work.

When I think how much money and time mine has saved me over the years, and the things you can do with a two post compared with a four post, that doesn't seem like a lot of time.

anonymous-user

41 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I have found that a four post with a jacking beam (mine is hydraulic and slides back and forth between the two ramps) gives the best of both worlds with few disadvantages. You have the safety and storage support of a four post plus the wheels free convenience of a two post. I haven't found the ramps to get in the way once the jacking beam is in place - in fact they make a great spot to place tools and various bits. I have the Strongman Findhorn Logie which is the has the lower ramp angles. I have done various ball joint, wheel hub, suspension jobs and found it to be perfect. I have solid drip trays in between the ramps to protect the car below.


julian64

13,860 posts

241 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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thecook101 said:
I have found that a four post with a jacking beam (mine is hydraulic and slides back and forth between the two ramps) gives the best of both worlds with few disadvantages. You have the safety and storage support of a four post plus the wheels free convenience of a two post. I haven't found the ramps to get in the way once the jacking beam is in place - in fact they make a great spot to place tools and various bits. I have the Strongman Findhorn Logie which is the has the lower ramp angles. I have done various ball joint, wheel hub, suspension jobs and found it to be perfect. I have solid drip trays in between the ramps to protect the car below.

Okay last post, because once I said the same thing twice and no ones listening its time to leave. The jacking beam does not turn a four post into a two post and does not give you the best of both worlds. I used to have a four post and sold it on.

The advantage the four post gives you is the ability to load the suspension, or store the car with the shocks under load. It would be nice to just drive a car you want to store onto the ramp without needing to worry about where the arms are going to go.

The disadvantage is that a four post with a jacking beam has two dirty great lumps of metal in the way of anything you are trying to do. If everything comes off easy than fine. But when you start to need to swing a hammer at a ball joint splitter or need a breaker bar on a suspension mounting bolt those two dirty great lumps of metal will be your worst enemy. When the gearbox needs to come out at an angle I guarantee the ramp will be In the way. Half the stuff I have done on my cars I couldn't do with a four post.

Anyway enough said, I hope it goes well for you.

TwinKam

2,355 posts

82 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I agree with julian64 on this. As do, I would guess, most 'in the trade' ie people working daily with a hoist. 4 posters are fine for just whipping the car up in the air for an inspection, but then you still have to jack the wheels off its decks if you need to work. A two poster if far more versatile, cheaper and with 2/3rds less to go wrong/need overhauling ... with a 4 poster you ideally need two jacking beams.
I said inspection... but you really can't see nor get to the critical sill areas (outriggers in this case) properly on a 4 poster either, there isn't as much void between the ramps as you might think and you'll be banging your head in more ways than one.

Barreti

6,680 posts

224 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Is there such a thing then as a 2 poster which can either be bolted to a ceiling or a wall at the top end?

I'm conscious of the possible lack of base underneath so a bracket either into the walls or the ceiling with a spacer place in the loft sounds like a good idea.

Alan461

853 posts

118 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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I've been looking at the options up to and including 4 post and now get the advantage of the two post as I intend it for work rather than storage.
Access is tight and have an 8' ceiling so been looking at this;


TwinKam

2,355 posts

82 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Some two posters are available with base frames for use on less than perfect floors. Viewed from above they look like an H (with a post rising from each intersection). On mine each leg is less than 1m long and about 40mm high, it is the extremities of these legs that are bolted to the floor.
Here's a pic of that sort of set up
Never seen one bolted to a wall or ceiling!

Edited by TwinKam on Tuesday 7th March 00:05