Will You Carry on Watching F1?
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I've been watching for more years than I care to remember, but it's all starting to get a little sterile for me.
Yes I watched yesterday, and raised my eyebrows when I saw Hulkenberg take fastest lap during the race - For me this highlights just how much "race management" b
ks goes on - are any of these cars ever driven consistently to their full potential?
Yes I know this has been discussed many times on here so I won't expand on it, but in a nutshell all this crap just isn't in the spirit of the sport that I fondly remember.
Yes I watched yesterday, and raised my eyebrows when I saw Hulkenberg take fastest lap during the race - For me this highlights just how much "race management" b
ks goes on - are any of these cars ever driven consistently to their full potential?Yes I know this has been discussed many times on here so I won't expand on it, but in a nutshell all this crap just isn't in the spirit of the sport that I fondly remember.
hilly10 said:
After yesterday’s race and then comments coming out of the Mercedes camp that Verstappen should win all 24 races,then it looks like the only real racing will be middle order battles. I have cancelled my subscription anyone else
The Mercedes propaganda machine has always been the strongest in the paddock, for false doom and gloom about their own pace, and bigging up the performance of every other car on the grid.Whilst Red Bull is in a good place, they're far from as dominant in pace to where Mercedes were last decade, and to suggest that a sample of one race (at the track where the only testing occurred, and which is quite different to other tracks) is sufficient to conclude that the championship is lost, is just preposterous.
The regs and the access to CFD and wind tunnel time is starting to pay off in my opinion, and I'd be shocked if there weren't wins for Ferrari, Mercedes and Aston at some points within the season.
Sensible money would be on Max and Red Bull for the Drivers and Constructors, but its far from being a slam dunk, done-deal
WelshChris said:
Yes I watched yesterday, and raised my eyebrows when I saw Hulkenberg take fastest lap during the race - For me this highlights just how much "race management" bks goes on - are any of these cars ever driven consistently to their full potential?
Yes I know this has been discussed many times on here so I won't expand on it, but in a nutshell all this crap just isn't in the spirit of the sport that I fondly remember.
Actually it is. ks goes on - are any of these cars ever driven consistently to their full potential?Yes I know this has been discussed many times on here so I won't expand on it, but in a nutshell all this crap just isn't in the spirit of the sport that I fondly remember.
hilly10 said:
After yesterday’s race and then comments coming out of the Mercedes camp that Verstappen should win all 24 races,then it looks like the only real racing will be middle order battles. I have cancelled my subscription anyone else
I stopped watching it some time ago. Don't miss it.HustleRussell said:
People are so bloody fickle! One race!
I'll do as I have always done, watch live if I can, watch highlights if I can't, find plenty to be interested in even if one team is dominating.
This!I'll do as I have always done, watch live if I can, watch highlights if I can't, find plenty to be interested in even if one team is dominating.
Even through the tedium of the Mercedes mega-spend hyper-dominance before last year's rule changes, I still found plenty to enjoy in the battles and performances throughout the field
hilly10 said:
After yesterday’s race and then comments coming out of the Mercedes camp that Verstappen should win all 24 races,then it looks like the only real racing will be middle order battles. I have cancelled my subscription anyone else
I'd never quite pans out how we all expect. Even if Verstappen gets 20+ wins (which is both entirely possible and kills me inside), I'll still watch because I love F1.
We've been here before with Schumacher, Vettel and Hamilton.
If you're a Max/RB fan it must be manna from heaven.
The ridiculous hero worship that causes people to say they dont like it anymore. All that desperation for lewis to win his 8th title or they will descend into the pits of despair.
Its like some guy with 7 billion dorras missing out on getting 1 more billion and people cant get over it on his behalf.
Its like some guy with 7 billion dorras missing out on getting 1 more billion and people cant get over it on his behalf.
First time in many years I didn't bother watching the first race, I didn't watch the last few from last year either and tbh I am glad i didn't. I am still interested in F1, just not in it's current form.
Seems like the penalty for Red Bull had no discernable effect so from their perspective it was a gamble well worth taking, the FIA and FOM in their desperation for a "different" winner have ruined the sport for probably 5 years.
Even in the merc dominance years it was still at least interesting to watch.
Gutted.
Seems like the penalty for Red Bull had no discernable effect so from their perspective it was a gamble well worth taking, the FIA and FOM in their desperation for a "different" winner have ruined the sport for probably 5 years.
Even in the merc dominance years it was still at least interesting to watch.
Gutted.
The problem is that domination helps nobody apart from the team and guy dominating, the sport suffers, viewing suffers, sponsorship potentially suffers too as people start to move on.
F1 has a global pull right now and it could potentially lose that bubble if races start to become utterly predictable
If you are winning a race by upwards of 40 seconds you clearly have an immense advantage over everyone else, and that is not a great prospect for the part timers.
But I expect most of them will be so giddy spending 20 quid on a programme, or buying overpriced tickets and merch made in sweatshops for 100 quid that they wont care.
it is like gig tickets, and big event tickets, they have become a bidding war, with no real attachment to reality. And at the moment there are millions of people so easily swept along, they will happily pay it and say it was worth it!
F1 has a global pull right now and it could potentially lose that bubble if races start to become utterly predictable
If you are winning a race by upwards of 40 seconds you clearly have an immense advantage over everyone else, and that is not a great prospect for the part timers.
But I expect most of them will be so giddy spending 20 quid on a programme, or buying overpriced tickets and merch made in sweatshops for 100 quid that they wont care.
it is like gig tickets, and big event tickets, they have become a bidding war, with no real attachment to reality. And at the moment there are millions of people so easily swept along, they will happily pay it and say it was worth it!
Fundoreen said:
The ridiculous hero worship that causes people to say they dont like it anymore. All that desperation for lewis to win his 8th title or they will descend into the pits of despair.
Its like some guy with 7 billion dorras missing out on getting 1 more billion and people cant get over it on his behalf.
IDGAF if Hamilton never wins another race. Its like some guy with 7 billion dorras missing out on getting 1 more billion and people cant get over it on his behalf.
I just want close racing and a fight for the win.
Last season was the first since 2006 that I didn't watch a live race. I was very much turned off after the 2021 debacle.
I took the NOW TV £20 bait and watched the race yesterday. Alonso made it watchable.
I'll carry on and watch if available, but I don't have the same desire not to miss anything. I don't bother with any build up or analysis anymore. Tune in for the race. Turned off straight after.
It'll be another dominant year by all accounts, which is a shame.
I was listening to Chris Harris's collecting cars podcast - one of the guests said that Hamilton just needs to win his 8th title to restore order in the universe (or something like that). I totally agree, but suspect that might not come to pass now. If not he'll be remembered as the 7x world champion* *that everyone knows should really be 8.
I took the NOW TV £20 bait and watched the race yesterday. Alonso made it watchable.
I'll carry on and watch if available, but I don't have the same desire not to miss anything. I don't bother with any build up or analysis anymore. Tune in for the race. Turned off straight after.
It'll be another dominant year by all accounts, which is a shame.
I was listening to Chris Harris's collecting cars podcast - one of the guests said that Hamilton just needs to win his 8th title to restore order in the universe (or something like that). I totally agree, but suspect that might not come to pass now. If not he'll be remembered as the 7x world champion* *that everyone knows should really be 8.
WelshChris said:
For me this highlights just how much "race management" bks goes on - are any of these cars ever driven consistently to their full potential?
No - because 'flat out' isn't the quickest way to cover the race distance so the best strategy to win the race.ks goes on - are any of these cars ever driven consistently to their full potential?To run the whole race 'flat out' you'd need to start with so much extra fuel your lap times at the start of the race will be significantly slower than those around you. Also you'll burn through tyres so need at least 1 more pit stop than everyone else. Yes you'll be much faster than everyone else at certain points - just nowhere near fast enough for enough laps to make up the deficits you'd build up.
hilly10 said:
After yesterday’s race and then comments coming out of the Mercedes camp that Verstappen should win all 24 races,then it looks like the only real racing will be middle order battles. I have cancelled my subscription anyone else
I get the sentiment, but that's a bit of a weird thing to do isn't it? It's like watching the first match of the Premier League season and seeing (plucks ludicrously unrealistic result out) Liverpool beat Man U 7-0 and then declaring you've cancelled your subscription as Liverpool will clearly win the title.simon_harris said:
Seems like the penalty for Red Bull had no discernable effect so from their perspective it was a gamble well worth taking, the FIA and FOM in their desperation for a "different" winner have ruined the sport for probably 5 years.
How would it have an affect instantly? Their 2023 car was probably 95% locked in before they even got the penalty.There should be some pain later in the season when everyone else can still bring upgrades.
Speed Badger said:
hilly10 said:
After yesterday’s race and then comments coming out of the Mercedes camp that Verstappen should win all 24 races,then it looks like the only real racing will be middle order battles. I have cancelled my subscription anyone else
I get the sentiment, but that's a bit of a weird thing to do isn't it? It's like watching the first match of the Premier League season and seeing (plucks ludicrously unrealistic result out) Liverpool beat Man U 7-0 and then declaring you've cancelled your subscription as Liverpool will clearly win the title.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff