Lewis Hamilton (Vol. 2)
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Jasandjules said:
If memory serves, Lewis once did a test day, they deliberately set the car up so it was wonky and several pro drivers (I think even a couple of F1 drivers at the time, this being a few years before Lewis got into F1) came back and complained it was impossible to drive, let alone fast. Lewis then drove a few laps and put in the fastest lap. They asked if the car was set up ok and he said "No, but it was good enough" or similar....
about Hamiltons first test with McLaren F1 teamPaddy Lowe said:
He's tremendously good at controlling a car in oversteer. We saw that from the first moment he got in our car. We saw the data, and on every entry we could see there was a massive correction on the steering, and our normal drivers would have been bhing like hell that the car was undriveable, yet he didn't even pass comment. So with a driver like that, you're better equipped to push the boundaries to new levels. Speaking generically of that characteristic, a lot of the performance limit of a car is set by stability; if you can't hang on to it, you will have to introduce understeer in that zone. But if you have a driver better able to deal with oversteer in those zones that induce it, then you will have a less-understeery car elsewhere and therefore more total grip over the lap. The great drivers over the years - Senna, Schumacher, Mansell - have all had that ability. Like for like compared to other drivers, they want more front end.
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He joined Merc when it had a lot of understeer and ate its rear tyres. I remember Lewis corrected the world who assumed he likes oversteer but actually preferred to set up cars with some understeer.
As we have seen with Alonso and Max the great drivers consistently extract the maximum from their cars regardless of how good or bad it is.
As we have seen with Alonso and Max the great drivers consistently extract the maximum from their cars regardless of how good or bad it is.
Jasandjules said:
paulguitar said:
Reports from long-term McLaren engineers who suggested after his first F1 test he might be the fastest driver they'd ever seen, and that includes Senna, Prost, and Hakkinen.
If memory serves, Lewis once did a test day, they deliberately set the car up so it was wonky and several pro drivers (I think even a couple of F1 drivers at the time, this being a few years before Lewis got into F1) came back and complained it was impossible to drive, let alone fast. Lewis then drove a few laps and put in the fastest lap. They asked if the car was set up ok and he said "No, but it was good enough" or similar....PdlR said:
That's when my mind changed. We had two cars, we were testing there, [and] it was his first ever Formula 1 experience. He did a run, and he was nowhere, you know.
I remember looking at his data with Philip Prew, my race engineer back then. We were looking and Philip told me: 'The boy will need to improve a lot over the years...it's a long road for Lewis, but he will be good, but we just have to give him time, blah, blah'.
And I thought 'yeah, yeah, yeah'. I did a run, came back, looked at the times and I saw Lewis was fastest.
You know, on the second run! And I looked at the data and I said: 'What happened?' [They said:] 'Well we gave him new tires'.
"So I looked in the data, and he was so fast through Copse, Becketts, Maggots... that then I just realised the potential of Lewis Hamilton. Just looking at the data for a couple of seconds I realised we had a massive problem.
Pedro lost the seat to Lewis in 2007 and the rest is history. I remember looking at his data with Philip Prew, my race engineer back then. We were looking and Philip told me: 'The boy will need to improve a lot over the years...it's a long road for Lewis, but he will be good, but we just have to give him time, blah, blah'.
And I thought 'yeah, yeah, yeah'. I did a run, came back, looked at the times and I saw Lewis was fastest.
You know, on the second run! And I looked at the data and I said: 'What happened?' [They said:] 'Well we gave him new tires'.
"So I looked in the data, and he was so fast through Copse, Becketts, Maggots... that then I just realised the potential of Lewis Hamilton. Just looking at the data for a couple of seconds I realised we had a massive problem.
Also, Lewis spent the day at Great Ormond Street Hospital today.
paulguitar said:
TikTak said:
paulguitar said:
In the time I've been watching sport, (40 years or so) Hamilton's story is one of the most fascinating and compelling I have witnessed. I find your comment bizarre.
Likewise. Genuinely intrigued to know what's got you so fascinated? I also completely disagree that he lacks personality or charisma. I think he has plenty of both. He's transcended his sport and personally made F1 far more popular worldwide. In the USA he's hugely popular whilst most Americans could literally not name another contemporary F1 driver. He's been right at the very top of F1 since the first corner of his first race, where he drove around the outside of his twice world champion teammate. He's remained there for more than a decade and a half, and, overall, has been unusually clean and fair in the way in which he has conducted himself both on and off the track. He towers over the sport in the same sort of way Senna did, or Rossi did in MotoGP. When he's gone the loss will be colossal.
Oh, and also Lewis and his dad bought one of his first karts from a Pistonheader.
It's nice to read what for others makes the driver/personality be more of a standout for others. I guess it's a specific mix that works as naturally some other drivers share these.
I guess for me it isn't the first time we've seen rags to riches and I'm more cynical of the people of those people once they've made it. The brash TV reality show life outside F1 just isn't my thing at all but hey, be boring if we all liked the same things.
andburg said:
Seems Lewis didn't take part in the drivers secret santa this year based on the video at least
Who cares? Anyway, he bought them all dinner at the end of season goodbye to Seb. I guess he has got used to doing that over the last few years and forgot it is normally the WDC who pays. andym1603 said:
Nope, no problem. Just wanted to know if the attention seeking had started already.
Holy irony Batman! He's been off socials for the majority of the winter break, popped up to pay his respects to Ken Block and then more recently with a few videos from his trip to Antarctica.
An 11km run in Antarctica with Shaun White for his birthday is pretty cool, as things go.
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