Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 11

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 11

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Viper201

7,250 posts

130 months

Wednesday
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dxg said:
irc said:
And of course the old ones are the best. Comedy gold. "A result that everyone will respect"

Look at the size of her signature compared to the others (and the space on the document). A psychologist could have a field day...
Yes, it matches her ego.

s2kjock

1,476 posts

134 months

Wednesday
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Master Of Puppets said:
Anyone here interested in Sea fishing, Wildlife watching, Swimming, Kayaking, Surfing?, better have a read of this just so you know the
type of controls the SNP and Greens want to have on your activities.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
This is a monster banana skin for any government, especially one that wins seats in fragile rural economies and regularly bigs up Scotland as being world leaders in renewable energy and marine aquaculture. I presume it was a sop to the Lorna and Paddy show, so can't see any eventual impact being anything other than light touch unless they can find a way to achieve their 10% by only affecting larger scale commercial fishing.

Lots of money to be made by consultants and facilitators though.

ant1973

5,606 posts

192 months

Wednesday
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Garvin said:
irc said:
A journalist finally realises what half the population here have known for years. Nippy talked a good game but was actually useless.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/nicola-sturgeo...
What Iain Macwhirter still doesn’t get is that he, and his fellow dumb journalists, were taken in by what was clearly an obvious con merchant and they became part of the problem. They simply did a thoroughly crap job in not calling out Sturgeon despite the clear and unequivocal evidence of her real performance and just thought that a good performance in front of a camera and a tyrannical approach to politics was the hallmarks of a good politician. The man is an imbecile and this article just admits as much.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/dont-rush-for-tickets-on-nicola-sturgeons-farewell-tour/

I thought this was the better article.

Sturgeon is a full time actress. Full of synthetic sympathy for every cause, but actually driven by her own interests.

Telling folk that you are filled by angst by discordant social media bickering, when you have spent years years fuelling that state of affairs is risible.

No one was prepared to ask "What would you do differently"? Or when they did they accepted the "levers" disablement as the excuse for incompetence.

Identity politics is all about masking political impotence. They can't solve the big "issues" so by focusing on "identity" issues they contrive political differences.

At least Forbes understands that focusing on identity politics in the face of so many other more important issues for the electorate is a sham.

86

1,820 posts

103 months

Wednesday
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s2kjock said:
Master Of Puppets said:
Anyone here interested in Sea fishing, Wildlife watching, Swimming, Kayaking, Surfing?, better have a read of this just so you know the
type of controls the SNP and Greens want to have on your activities.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
This is a monster banana skin for any government, especially one that wins seats in fragile rural economies and regularly bigs up Scotland as being world leaders in renewable energy and marine aquaculture. I presume it was a sop to the Lorna and Paddy show, so can't see any eventual impact being anything other than light touch unless they can find a way to achieve their 10% by only affecting larger scale commercial fishing.

Lots of money to be made by consultants and facilitators though.
Amazing how Scots vote for the SNP. Maybe they like politicians running every aspect of their lives imposing more and more controls. Saw it during Covid Sturgeon loved it. Will end up like North Korea !

General Price

4,747 posts

170 months

Wednesday
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86 said:
Amazing how Scots vote for the SNP. Maybe they like politicians running every aspect of their lives imposing more and more controls. Saw it during Covid Sturgeon loved it. Will end up like North Korea !
They have been fortunate that a lot of their supporters hate the English more than they care about Scotland.



TheJimi

23,306 posts

230 months

Wednesday
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General Price said:
86 said:
Amazing how Scots vote for the SNP. Maybe they like politicians running every aspect of their lives imposing more and more controls. Saw it during Covid Sturgeon loved it. Will end up like North Korea !
They have been fortunate that a lot of their supporters hate the English more than they care about Scotland.
The "bastirt toareees / bastirt westminstur" effect is very real, unfortunately.

dxg

7,146 posts

247 months

Wednesday
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86 said:
s2kjock said:
Master Of Puppets said:
Anyone here interested in Sea fishing, Wildlife watching, Swimming, Kayaking, Surfing?, better have a read of this just so you know the
type of controls the SNP and Greens want to have on your activities.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politi...
This is a monster banana skin for any government, especially one that wins seats in fragile rural economies and regularly bigs up Scotland as being world leaders in renewable energy and marine aquaculture. I presume it was a sop to the Lorna and Paddy show, so can't see any eventual impact being anything other than light touch unless they can find a way to achieve their 10% by only affecting larger scale commercial fishing.

Lots of money to be made by consultants and facilitators though.
Amazing how Scots vote for the SNP. Maybe they like politicians running every aspect of their lives imposing more and more controls. Saw it during Covid Sturgeon loved it. Will end up like North Korea !
It's absolutely ridiculous and shows how out of touch the Scottish political class (such as it is) is. If you live in the Hebrides, for example, the sea is an integral part of your lifestyle. It affects everything, from employment, to recreation, to what you can do and where you can go on any given day. Every other house has a boat of some kind... Fortunately, I doubt anyone up there would be minded to follow or enforce any of these rules.

Se7enheaven

1,498 posts

151 months

Wednesday
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This one is brilliant . Very clever , very funny and very true
https://youtu.be/0umHrw75cDo

cuprabob

12,685 posts

201 months

Wednesday
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Se7enheaven said:
This one is brilliant . Very clever , very funny and very true
https://youtu.be/0umHrw75cDo
That is good smile

Master Of Puppets

2,716 posts

49 months

Wednesday
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Watch Stephen Kerr rip Slater a new one, if only they would all call out this parcel of rogues like this.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1638186639099928576

irc

5,289 posts

123 months

Wednesday
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Sturgeon declined an invite to appear atthe Scottish Affairs Commitee. Too busy. Had time for Loose Women though. She really is a chancer. Thank fk she has gone.







hutchst

3,665 posts

83 months

Wednesday
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TheJimi said:
The "bastirt toareees / bastirt westminstur" effect is very real, unfortunately.
But there aren't enough of them.

The principal reason, by far, for the SNP dominance recently was the implosion of Labour as a credible political organisation post-Blair. And that wheel is turning full circle.

leef44

3,561 posts

140 months

Wednesday
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ninepoint2 said:
NRS said:
You have to wonder what she and her husband ever speak about? It seems to not be the SNP which is a bit weird given their former positions.
From Sunday Times 13 Dec 2020, here is Nicola Sturgeon, speaking in the Scottish parliament this week: “I deal with confidential matters every day of my life . . . I do not gossip about those things, even to my husband. I am the first minister of the country, not the office gossip, and I take my responsibilities in that role extremely seriously.”
And here is Nicola Sturgeon, speaking to the Daily Record in 2012: “Being in the same kind of line of work [as my husband] has its upsides and its downsides. The upside is that Peter [Murrell] understands what’s going on and why I am late home all the time. The downside is that you just end up talking about it all the time and you never leave it”

As usual her defence would be she would be unable to "recall" either of these

Edited by ninepoint2 on Wednesday 22 March 09:13
"unable to recall"?

This will explain why so little gets done because she is absent minded. She is great at making speeches and saying the things she will do but doesn't get much done... at all!

irc

5,289 posts

123 months

Yesterday (08:52)
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Another ferry scandal. In competent times there are two ferries covering the Corran run. Currently the larger ferry is out of service. The smaller ferry has had a 3.5 ton weight limit put on it. So a huge corner of Scotland has no direct commercial vehicle access.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23372957.corra...

I wasn't aware of this until I heard a Mull resident in the radio talking about the general issues. She repeated the suggestion that what the islands need is more smaller vessels and more capacity and more frequent services. Not the CalMac model of big ships with extensive crew accomodations and catering.

irc

5,289 posts

123 months

Yesterday (08:57)
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Sorry. I'm about to puke. The radio going on about how great Nippy was. The classic was her "command of detail". Detail? She has the memory of an 80 year old when the detail is inconvenient.

Master Of Puppets

2,716 posts

49 months

Yesterday (08:58)
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So that will be the lagacy, Sturgeon...The face that launched zero ferries.

alangla

3,963 posts

168 months

Yesterday (09:28)
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Master Of Puppets said:
So that will be the lagacy, Sturgeon...The face that launched zero ferries.
It wasn’t always thus: back in 2012 Sturgeon launched the Hallaig at Ferguson’s. That was back in the days when the SNP objective seemed to be to try to operate a competent government and not manufacturing grievances at every turn while systematically wrecking the country.
That genuinely seems like forever ago.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Hallaig

NRS

21,030 posts

188 months

Yesterday (09:32)
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It's amazing more hasn't been highlighted on corruption when you read this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-poli...

biggles330d

1,235 posts

137 months

Yesterday (10:04)
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NRS said:
It's amazing more hasn't been highlighted on corruption when you read this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-poli...
Seems to be a Sturgeon MO. The independent EY report commissioned to look at the future of how the services are delivered explored 4 options, alternative Regulation, Integration of some of the parties (CMAL / CFL), Privatisation and Decentralisation. The report is being consulted on at the moment across the islands, but 50% of the options, Privatisation and Decentralisation, were immediately dismissed by the FM on the announcement of the report as things that weren't going to happen.
Er, ok, then why have them included in the EY scope and why bother consulting islanders on the findings?

Roderick Spode

2,543 posts

36 months

Yesterday (10:07)
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irc said:
The closing lines in that letter are very interesting -

"Also, any policy specific questions will be a matter for the incoming First Minister..."

Talk about shirking your responsibilities and running away. But then that's been Nippy's MO for the last 15 years. Disasters as Health Minister? Blame the health boards / medical staff / bastirt Toarreees / your successor. Disaster as First Minister? Blame the media / Civil Servants / bastirt Toarreees / throw your cabinet colleagues under the bus / refuse to appear in front of a parliamentary committee. She really does have some brass neck on her.