Wiggly white lines in Clevedon

Wiggly white lines in Clevedon

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livinginasia

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758 posts

97 months

Thursday 19th January
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Surely it’s illegal to cross a solid white line?

Have this council gone totally bonkers?

https://www.nationalworld.com/nationalworldtv/news...

CraigyMc

15,127 posts

223 months

Thursday 19th January
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That's bizarre.

Debaser

4,899 posts

248 months

Thursday 19th January
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Weird. Would love to see an explanation.

GranpaB

2,390 posts

23 months

Thursday 19th January
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Designed to slow down traffic?

yep, great idea.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th January
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Don't think thats a National Highways road!

Must be north Somerset council/ highways team that dreamt up that! Sadly i come from south Somerset but those north Somerset lot are a strange bunch!!!

Alot of hippies in that area on the council boarding who do wacky backy !


They have made up road markings to confuse people! genius! The highway code doesn't even cover such road markings let alone DMRB guidance lol

mac96

3,224 posts

130 months

Thursday 19th January
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Whatever the intent, the council seem to have decided that it is OK to cross a solid white line on 'their' roads. That is not going to help discourage people from doing so elsewhere .

Surely it is fundamental to road safety that a road marking means the same thing in Penzance and Peterborough? Drivers cannot be expected to know what local variations mean.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th January
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mac96 said:
Whatever the intent, the council seem to have decided that it is OK to cross a solid white line on 'their' roads. That is not going to help discourage people from doing so elsewhere .

Surely it is fundamental to road safety that a road marking means the same thing in Penzance and Peterborough? Drivers cannot be expected to know what local variations mean.
Not in North Somerset anything goes

Cat

2,832 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th January
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mac96 said:
Whatever the intent, the council seem to have decided that it is OK to cross a solid white line on 'their' roads. That is not going to help discourage people from doing so elsewhere .

Surely it is fundamental to road safety that a road marking means the same thing in Penzance and Peterborough? Drivers cannot be expected to know what local variations mean.
There is no prohibition on crossing a single solid white line in the centre of the road. The prohibition relates to a double white line where the line nearest to you is solid.

Cat

Edited by Cat on Thursday 19th January 11:43

Super Sonic

2,612 posts

41 months

Thursday 19th January
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This what happens when you put local councils in charge of roads. fking mental.

Waynester

6,131 posts

237 months

Thursday 19th January
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Those who choose to drink drive won’t have an issue with this..

Yellow Lizud

2,266 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th January
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Cat said:
There is no prohibition on crossing a single solid white line in the centre of the road.
Cat
Are you sure about this? I don't think there is such a thing as a single solid white line in the centre of the road.

A single solid white line, on the drivers left, could be used to indicate bus lane or cycle lane which you mustn't cross.
A single solid white line, in the centre of the road, could be used on the edge of hatch markings which you mustn't cross, however this is really just a very wide double white line.

I am unaware of anywhere, on public roads, that could use a single solid white line in the centre of the road (Except Clevedon!). Even if it did exist somewhere I do not believe it would be legal to cross over the line.

Happy to be proved wrong.

Yex GTR

4,516 posts

207 months

Thursday 19th January
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So someone new to the area suddenly notices the wiggly white line and decides to serve to the left to try to not cross it. They immediately enter the cycle lane and kill a cyclist or two.

How is that going to go down in a court?

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th January
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Yex GTR said:
So someone new to the area suddenly notices the wiggly white line and decides to serve to the left to try to not cross it. They immediately enter the cycle lane and kill a cyclist or two.

How is that going to go down in a court?
High Risk----- I would say as the summer months a lot of northerners holiday in that area! Weston Super Mare just down the road!


If a fatality occurred I think the local council would liable!!! They have made up road markings, that are deliberately misleading and to cause confusion! Only someone at a local council who had never had a real job could dream up such a stupid idea!

Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 19th January 13:44

Cat

2,832 posts

256 months

Thursday 19th January
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Yellow Lizud said:
Are you sure about this? I don't think there is such a thing as a single solid white line in the centre of the road.
Yes I'm sure. The line is not a prescribed regulatory road marking so it does not indicate any sort of prohibition.

Yellow Lizud said:
Even if it did exist somewhere I do not believe it would be legal to cross over the line.
What you believe is irrelevant. What legislation do you think makes it an offence to cross such a line?

Cat

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th January
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I would hazard a guess it would be classified as an edge line under rule 128-129

As said ONLY DOUBLE solids are an issue > is there are double white lines and the line nearest to you is solid, it means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it!


Edge line is supposed to define the edge of a carriageway NOT cause confusion or be used a traffic calming measure.


Short Grain

2,388 posts

207 months

Thursday 19th January
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As someone stated earlier, some bored council bod has probably had a quick spliff at lunchtime and thought "I wonder if I can get this past the highways dept, make 'em look stupid?"
And Guess What? Now the highways dept. has to come up with some lame excuse to try and not look fookin idiots! hehe

I hope that's what happened anyway

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

166 months

Thursday 19th January
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Short Grain said:
As someone stated earlier, some bored council bod has probably had a quick spliff at lunchtime and thought "I wonder if I can get this past the highways dept, make 'em look stupid?"
And Guess What? Now the highways dept. has to come up with some lame excuse to try and not look fookin idiots! hehe

I hope that's what happened anyway
I am assuming WJ Road Markings who do most jobs in the southwest, did It I may tap up my contact and ask lol!

Certainly did all NH stuff in that area clevedon is my old patch!


Red9zero

5,212 posts

44 months

Thursday 19th January
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I drove down there at the weekend. It does look very odd to say the least. Wierd short cycle path too, that didn't look particularly safe to use.

Yellow Lizud

2,266 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th January
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Cat said:
Yellow Lizud said:
Are you sure about this? I don't think there is such a thing as a single solid white line in the centre of the road.
Yes I'm sure. The line is not a prescribed regulatory road marking so it does not indicate any sort of prohibition.

Yellow Lizud said:
Even if it did exist somewhere I do not believe it would be legal to cross over the line.
What you believe is irrelevant. What legislation do you think makes it an offence to cross such a line?

Cat
Not quite sure what you are trying to argue here - we're both saying the same thing!

"There is no such thing as a single solid white line in the centre of the road" is exactly the same thing as "The line is not a prescribed regulatory road marking"

Of course there is no legislation that makes it an offence to cross such a line because such a line does not exist.

stemll

3,513 posts

187 months

Thursday 19th January
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Hang on, there is a cycle lane then parking (in the middle of the road) and then the rest is a "normal" one way road?

If the wiggly bit is meant to stop people parking on that bit of the middle of road, surely you just paint "No Parking"