JSF... get over it and return

It's a shame he stopped posting, but can't really blame him to be honest.

Every thread ends up the same.

Don’t miss his rude, arrogant and condescending posts in the slightest.

Hello chaps! Kindred spirits. I thought it was just me. I don't miss him at all, but I think I see his style in the threads still.
I too agree the race threads become unreadable/toxic very quickly.

There is some great insight and information in this bit of the forum but as others have said most threads very quickly go the same way. I suspect most people who 'flounce out' lurk in some way.

The tribal nature of the F1 GP threads is irritating. I know that's easy for a McLaren supporter to say, but who cares who wins? The start or the battles used to be predictable; about 10 pages past the finish, when everyone seemed to agree with what the main point of contention was to be, but we get it almost from the start of the race normally, and even in the build-up. It clutters the thread. Complain, and the rejection generates even more irate posts.

JSF's posts sometimes contained good information, but it got to the stage where I just ignored them. A statement, normally critical of us lesser beings, isn't a conversation or discussion.

I'm very much with Derek. Even down to being a bit of a fan of the Papaya cars.
However, like rugby, opposing fans shouldn't need to be segregated and can enjoy a beer or two before after and during the match. Unfortunately PiP threads are more akin to a football match. Which is a great shame because they start off as a work of art and are much appreciated. I don't really venture in to them any more. If you say Max had a blinder, you're immediately a RB fan boy and a Hamilton hater. That isn't the case. We (in this thread at least) have probably been watching F1 for decades and between us centuries. We have a bit more about us I'd like to think.

Calling for posters to return?

I enjoy these forums and the debate that goes on within them. However I can't say that I'd be motivated in the slightest to ask anyone to return who had left/been banned

There's plenty of folk left to put their views across.

Bit of a rugby fan myself, so you are more with me than you thought.

The most memorable, and enjoyable rugby experiences I've have was when leaving Wales/England matches, packed into a train, with the Welsh choirs giving full voice. One chap, almost under my armpit, stopped singing once, and I said, 'You know you lost to us, don't you?' and he said, 'Yes, but that run from our 22m to yours was an event we'll remember for years.' Superb. Who could begrudge him his little victory?

More recently at a club league match, the away-side chair, well Welsh, gave a speech in which he, like the Welsh 6N team the weekend before, demolished England. After the speeches, I went over to him, thanked him for his input to rugby's knowledge base, and said how pleased I was that his team had won. 'It's good to see emerging nations coming through,' I said. He laughed and then bought me a drink.

That's what I want from fans in F1. You still get it at races, so why not on forums? We're F1 fans first. Let's play nicely.

The problem is, you're one of them

Frankly, you're not one of them

JSF contributed 1000 more than most of the posters on this thread but as is usual with those who really know what they are talking about it pissed off those who only thought they did. See Breadvan, Equus, ATGLaw & a few others. Atfer a while it becomes tedious dealing with idiots every day.

Don't get me wrong; he knew his onions and did have a valuable insight.

Begging him to come back seems a bit needy though.