Are Electric Cars the biggest con on the planet???

Biggest con ever there can never be enough charging points for everyone, even if they changed the date to 2050. I for one will be changing my Mustang 5.0GT and my Range Rover late 2029 and I bet a lot of other people will too👍

No if say 200 people live in a 20 story block of flats how are you going to get the leads up to the top floors. The wiring would look like Thailand.
Also try getting your car charged north of Fort William and Inverness

Gosh, you're right. They're going to have to think of another way other than a 20 storey May Pole of charging cables. But there can't be any other way! Check-mate! Aaargh.

Yup, peat-burning three-pin sockets are only just catching on in Scotland. They don't have any proper electricity.

You're across all the issues. I'm glad you've arrive to draw this hopeless thread to a close. We've been battling with these questions for ages, unable to bring ourselves to realise it was all for nought.

I'll put it down to misplaced optimism and go and sit in the sea.

Why do you need to charge from an extension lead? You aren't tied into your homes electricity supply.

Charge it where you park it, or pop into a fast charge station.

Yeehah, you tell 'em Merc!

Bunch of nappy-wearing imbeciles driving jumped-up milk-floats...

I do think the gov should have installed far more chargers, I'm lucky that I have a drive but I do think a lot of cheap but slower chargers in council own car parks would have been a great idea and maybe energy companies could offer a cheap overnight rate which would help the people who live in flats etc.

The government shouldn't be installing anything nor paying for anything. Such a mechanism is hugely wasteful of taxpayer money.

They should legislate where the chargers need to be, legislate how much commission they can charge for vending electricity and then place tax penalties on EV vendors and energy companies that are sufficient to steer private capital into building the national network.

One only needs to look at the state and cost of anything run or paid for by the govt to see why it would be clinically insane to rely on them to create a national network to keep lower paid workers sufficiently mobile.

They can't even keep public toilets clean and operational and we are suggesting they run our car refuelling network? Total madness.

And here is the other key aspect that keeps being overlooked:

The EV market today is not for those who cannot home charge.

The EV market today is all about those who can home charge, those who can capitalise on the tax incentives, those who have the income and wealth to absorb the inconveniences and gain from the advantages. And it is these consumers who will continue over the next two decades to create the market and infrastructure that others will be needing before they can easily switch in ten to twenty years.

There is no sanity in paying to install and maintain chargers for consumers ten years or more before they need them. That's the kind of loony spending that sees the provincial governments of the U.K. bankrupting themselves and their wards screwed. It's gesture politics at the expense of common sense and the bill is always paid by those they are aiming to dupe.

The majority of U.K. households with cars have the ability to home charge one way or another. These are the households that the market aims to switch over the next 10-20 years and it is their switching that will facilitate the wider network that permits the others to switch.

The uncomfortable reality is that like not everyone can just have a Ferrari, not everyone can have an EV bit they will be able to in the years to come but demanding they have one right now and that the world delivers them a charging network immediately is just a bit churlish.

It's a rather depressing lens you seem to see life through.

Surely the Aylesbury estate has very limited parking anyway so your comment re EV charging is somewhat irrelevant.

I think folk living in awful high rise sink estates have become the new go to people to protect from evil oppression now the whole 'children mining cobalt' thing has worn off and had to accept that no one really cares how many children are consumed and abused to get their shiny new purchases delivered to their front door.

It's a bit like vegetarianism stopped having any disruptive impact so they had to roll our 'lactose intolerance' and when that was eventually ignored they had to leap on the vegan bandwagon and then the trans stuff.

People don't actually care. They just seek out proxy victims to manipulate and abuse to fit their own agenda.

For old geezers in houses with driveways and no actual need to ever travel anywhere that an EV couldn't easily do as they don't have to be anywhere at any time and have nice big pensions to pay the lease costs, it's become fashionable to pretend to care about the downtrodden as a means to exploit those people's situation to justify their own desires and beliefs.

Last week it was kids mining cobalt, this week it seems to be people without cars in 60s Council blocks. Next week it'll be the evil of EV use that forces people to push puffins are their arses or some such waffle about caring about something they have never once cared about their entire life.

Are these people quaffing their wife's left over HRT pills?

Most high-rise buildings don't have many car parking spaces at all, full stop.
A building near to me in Manchester has 110 dwellings. 1 or 2 bed, so you've got perhaps some single people, some couples and some with 3+ folks in, depending on how awkwardly third-wheely some living situations might be.
So we can presume 150-odd people living there.

40 car parking spaces. But, all the meters are in a cupboard in the same car park, so it's not unthinkable to sort something out (perhaps with a keyswitch to prevent people charging off other folks power). OR the landlord could install a system with contactless payment. OR they can use the new MFG charging point which has 8 150kw-capable bays at it, just a 2 min drive away.