Mid life crisis. Has anybody had one?

Mid life crisis. Has anybody had one?

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Krhuangbin

690 posts

118 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Mirinjawbro said:
i discussed this sort of thing not long ago.

i am constantly thinking of the past. what i think i miss

-living with mates
-messing around partying and everything that goes with it
- being younger in general
- not having worries of jobs / money - i earnt 20-25k but it was enough to still do what i want and go out every friday and saturday

at the moment i do none of the above but been with someone almost 5 years with no marriage or kids.

im in a dead zone with no positives from either side. i dont go out and party but also dont have kids or married.

But all i ever do again last especially the last few weeks is listen to songs that remind me of the past. i even google maps of old places i lived as its weird it gives me some sort of nostalgic happiness.

ive spoken to many old friends about this and they say the miss it. but nothing like it seems i do.
Could be reading my own writing there - scarily similar down to length of relationship etc.

Group of mates settling down marriages/kids etc.... little desire to do anything exiting. I am constantly looking back at world travel and parties and moments going back years.

When I do manage to drag someone out for a silly evening they often comment how much fun they've had etc. It's as if everyone's forgotten. And yet, never feels quite as good as years gone by.

I am definitely having an early MLC. Bomb around in a (cheapo) Aston Martin and am down the boozer several nights a week. Early 30's, trying to elongate my 20's. Don't want to settle.

Mirinjawbro

475 posts

51 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Krhuangbin said:
Could be reading my own writing there - scarily similar down to length of relationship etc.

Group of mates settling down marriages/kids etc.... little desire to do anything exiting. I am constantly looking back at world travel and parties and moments going back years.

When I do manage to drag someone out for a silly evening they often comment how much fun they've had etc. It's as if everyone's forgotten. And yet, never feels quite as good as years gone by.

I am definitely having an early MLC. Bomb around in a (cheapo) Aston Martin and am down the boozer several nights a week. Early 30's, trying to elongate my 20's. Don't want to settle.
haha and what you've said is also the other part of me.

Porsche, BMW, audi, my reasoning being is that i don't go out anymore, dont smoke, rarely drink (although regularly boredom drinking recently) so the money can be spent on cars & modding.

most of my old group were also married / house / kids by late 20s. our group went from 6-8 every night slowly without realising to 2 or 3

group has died now. no holidays. weekends away. nothing. yet most are stuck in dead end jobs probably scraping by every month and do nothing.





youngsyr

13,339 posts

179 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Mirinjawbro said:
all the money chasing and sucking up to probably still never realise that an extra 500 a month take home gets you nowhere these days.

maybe there needs to be an app made for cool kids like us smile
Well, I'd certainly like to know how to solve the conundrum!

Can't help but feel that either my view of things is broken, or everyone else's is.

Perhaps it's neither and we, as humans, have just got swept up in a system, of our own creation, that doesn't really work very well.

youngsyr

13,339 posts

179 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Mirinjawbro said:
Krhuangbin said:
Could be reading my own writing there - scarily similar down to length of relationship etc.

Group of mates settling down marriages/kids etc.... little desire to do anything exiting. I am constantly looking back at world travel and parties and moments going back years.

When I do manage to drag someone out for a silly evening they often comment how much fun they've had etc. It's as if everyone's forgotten. And yet, never feels quite as good as years gone by.

I am definitely having an early MLC. Bomb around in a (cheapo) Aston Martin and am down the boozer several nights a week. Early 30's, trying to elongate my 20's. Don't want to settle.
haha and what you've said is also the other part of me.

Porsche, BMW, audi, my reasoning being is that i don't go out anymore, dont smoke, rarely drink (although regularly boredom drinking recently) so the money can be spent on cars & modding.

most of my old group were also married / house / kids by late 20s. our group went from 6-8 every night slowly without realising to 2 or 3

group has died now. no holidays. weekends away. nothing. yet most are stuck in dead end jobs probably scraping by every month and do nothing.
Kids can be a big part of that. They demand a huge amount of your time, attention and energy.

I fully understand wanting a quiet night in and an early night when you do get time off. Not particularly healthy though.

Mirinjawbro

475 posts

51 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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could be. that's what happened with me being stuck in the in between as mentioned above

i barely go out anymore . probably 5 times a year. not just nights out i mean. pretty much anything messing around with friends. weekends away - random bits.

im also not married / kids.

just been in a dead zone for 5 years


i also think as time has gone on and doing a job i never have liked (analyst IT work), year after year its made it all worse.

id really like to start a new career but current outgoings would never allow it.

WY86

716 posts

14 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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A lot of it is being stuck in a rut, a routine is a very comforting and secure thing. I have two groups of friends, one group still rides BMX's, MTBS and go away on trips all the time but none have kids or married. the other group have settled down had kids work 9-5 and faded into the mundane of everyday life. the funny thing is both groups want what each other has. for me it is all about balance, do i wish to go out till 4am... Not a chance. Do i still go ride my BMX yes i do!! life at the end of the day is short and it can get you down fast (especially reading the doom and gloom in NP&E).

TameRacingDriver

16,406 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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I don't know if what I'm going through now is a mid life crisis but at 43 I'm definitely feeling like my mood and emotions are a rollercoaster.

I spent my 20s and 30s pissing the nights away like many of us. Now I still go out but not as often, but mainly because I don't feel like my body can take the abuse as much these days.

In fact I am really suffering with low energy, lack of motivation, daily headaches, depression, anxiety, the works.

I'm trying to exercise, eat healthier and cutting down the booze but if anything I seem to be getting worse by the week.

I think the lockdowns didn't help either, I went from a sociable job to one where I'm locked up in a room staring at spreadsheets and yearning for a life that seemed a lot rosier before.

I'm not sure what to do about it but my first step is I'm booked in with the GP next week. I feel like a complete shell of a human these days quite honestly.

Mirinjawbro

475 posts

51 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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TameRacingDriver said:
I don't know if what I'm going through now is a mid life crisis but at 43 I'm definitely feeling like my mood and emotions are a rollercoaster.

I spent my 20s and 30s pissing the nights away like many of us. Now I still go out but not as often, but mainly because I don't feel like my body can take the abuse as much these days.

In fact I am really suffering with low energy, lack of motivation, daily headaches, depression, anxiety, the works.

I'm trying to exercise, eat healthier and cutting down the booze but if anything I seem to be getting worse by the week.

I think the lockdowns didn't help either, I went from a sociable job to one where I'm locked up in a room staring at spreadsheets and yearning for a life that seemed a lot rosier before.

I'm not sure what to do about it but my first step is I'm booked in with the GP next week. I feel like a complete shell of a human these days quite honestly.
do you find that when you do something the aggravated feelings go? for me it does. but what i do is so rare it doesn't undo doing nothing 95% of the year.

10 years ago i craved earning more money and in a better job. i earn 4 x now what i did back then but everything else is worse.

my life at the moment is work monday to friday and barely anything else.

or are we just thinking the old times are better? i made a thread a while ago about keep thinking about the past. alot of people mentioned i'm only remembering the good things.




AB

16,646 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Not a MLC as such, but certainly a feeling of 'what to do next' and 'I miss being 25' along with hating the thought of getting older (I'm 36).

Don't get me wrong, I'm very fortunate in that I have a great wife and kids, nice house, enjoy my cars, run my own business with extremely trusted and long serving staff so flexibility in that respect.

I must sit and ponder the thought of getting old a couple of times a day, wonder what I could change to mix things up to stop the monotony that daily life has become.

Recently started PT sessions twice a week, and I keep meaning to pump my bike tyres up. So yeah, I'm pretty much approaching mid-life and thinking/worrying far too much about the future.

PushedDover

4,909 posts

40 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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just a comment to through in here for what I read as a few of you- energy levels etc etc.

I recall in my toguher times a friend saying Exercise is a great aide to mental health - i did a little back then.
As a complete aside and on the back of an innocuous conversation with BIL last year, I set myself a little challenge.
Run or ride every day.
Not much. But something. It has to be a minimum run of 20mins or minimum ride of an hour.
For context - I've never run before.

BUT- its been a good thing. a good mental thing. The Wife gets a little frustrated by what she calls an obsession, and I ironically I have only let it slip a few days when on holiday, or sadly last week when poorly, but its given a focus. A point. A challenge.
Some days knowing I've work travel (red eye flight at 6am for example) I have done a double the day before - carried one in my back pocket to the next day, but conversely when away on work, rather than stew in a hotel room I have ran the sights of London, Copenhagen, Norwich, Hamburg, Aberdeen, Madrid, San Sebastien etc etc.
I just have to pack some trainers, and shorts next to a suit. But I've loved each run.

A large part of it came also from reading a book two years ago called "Living with a Seal" which demonstrated just how much of a challenge like the above is 'mental' not physical.

Today, a day in London - my train was 7:30, so I hauled my ass out of bed a little earlier than usual, did my 20mins on the treadmill in the garage and thats it lggged, box ticked, for the day.

I do recommend. There is ZERO excuse not to fit a mere 20mins of exercise in your day.
The run is easy. Never Ever regretted. but the 'mental challenge of' : "What would the Seal Do kicks me on every day.

Fun times,

TameRacingDriver

16,406 posts

259 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Mirinjawbro said:
do you find that when you do something the aggravated feelings go? for me it does. but what i do is so rare it doesn't undo doing nothing 95% of the year.

10 years ago i craved earning more money and in a better job. i earn 4 x now what i did back then but everything else is worse.

my life at the moment is work monday to friday and barely anything else.

or are we just thinking the old times are better? i made a thread a while ago about keep thinking about the past. alot of people mentioned i'm only remembering the good things.
I guess to answer your first question, doing something takes my mind off it, but nothing seems to have any lasting effect.

I have never been one who is career minded, but ultimately what I do now is, or at least seems less enjoyable. There isn't a lot of pressure, but I give myself enough of that.

Overall I think I was happier in my 20s even though I'm in some ways in a better, stronger position, but I feel like I've lost any health that I had and it's definitely getting me down.

Mirinjawbro

475 posts

51 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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seems theres almost 2 camps

one. happily married kids and continues 9 to 5 forever. not angry, not bored, just plods along

then us.

always seeking more, better, bigger, faster


Krhuangbin

690 posts

118 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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AB said:
Not a MLC as such, but certainly a feeling of 'what to do next' and 'I miss being 25' along with hating the thought of getting older (I'm 36).

Don't get me wrong, I'm very fortunate in that I have a great wife and kids, nice house, enjoy my cars, run my own business with extremely trusted and long serving staff so flexibility in that respect.

I must sit and ponder the thought of getting old a couple of times a day, wonder what I could change to mix things up to stop the monotony that daily life has become.

Recently started PT sessions twice a week, and I keep meaning to pump my bike tyres up. So yeah, I'm pretty much approaching mid-life and thinking/worrying far too much about the future.
The bit about pondering the thought of getting older a few times a day... I do it constantly, i'm 33, Should really be bang in the middle of prime time as a man. Still objectively and subjectively young. Just getting going...? I have got into a really very unhealthy habit of googling the age of anyone I see in films/TV etc, even those going back many years, when I think how attractive or "at the top of their game" or "before their rise to success" type thing.... when I see that they're older than me I feel relief and a sense of validation that there's still plenty of time... when they're younger (in period) even just by a year or two, panic sets in. Weird

Wacky Racer

36,681 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.



The Parable of the Mexican Fisherman

An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.

The Mexican replied, “only a little while.”

The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish?

The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs.

The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”

The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, and stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.”

The American scoffed. “I have an MBA from Harvard, and can help you,” he said. “You should spend more time fishing, and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, and eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middle-man, you could sell directly to the processor, eventually opening up your own cannery. You could control the product, processing, and distribution,” he said. “Of course, you would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles, and eventually to New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”

The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”

To which the American replied, “Oh, 15 to 20 years or so.”

“But what then?” asked the Mexican.

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“Millions – then what?”

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VeeReihenmotor6

1,774 posts

162 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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PushedDover said:
just a comment to through in here for what I read as a few of you- energy levels etc etc.

I recall in my toguher times a friend saying Exercise is a great aide to mental health - i did a little back then.
As a complete aside and on the back of an innocuous conversation with BIL last year, I set myself a little challenge.
Run or ride every day.
Not much. But something. It has to be a minimum run of 20mins or minimum ride of an hour.
For context - I've never run before.

BUT- its been a good thing. a good mental thing. The Wife gets a little frustrated by what she calls an obsession, and I ironically I have only let it slip a few days when on holiday, or sadly last week when poorly, but its given a focus. A point. A challenge.
Some days knowing I've work travel (red eye flight at 6am for example) I have done a double the day before - carried one in my back pocket to the next day, but conversely when away on work, rather than stew in a hotel room I have ran the sights of London, Copenhagen, Norwich, Hamburg, Aberdeen, Madrid, San Sebastien etc etc.
I just have to pack some trainers, and shorts next to a suit. But I've loved each run.

A large part of it came also from reading a book two years ago called "Living with a Seal" which demonstrated just how much of a challenge like the above is 'mental' not physical.

Today, a day in London - my train was 7:30, so I hauled my ass out of bed a little earlier than usual, did my 20mins on the treadmill in the garage and thats it lggged, box ticked, for the day.

I do recommend. There is ZERO excuse not to fit a mere 20mins of exercise in your day.
The run is easy. Never Ever regretted. but the 'mental challenge of' : "What would the Seal Do kicks me on every day.

Fun times,
100% agree with that. Back oin my early 30s i was cycling to work. I've never really liked my job but cycling made me feel like an alpha male inside and got me out of a rut.

Fast forward to WFH for 3 years that routine went but recently I have started running again and living by the 20 minute minimum thing - I live rural now and it is easy to make the excuse that it is too dark but I don my head torge and go out for 20 mins and feel the better for it.


LankyFreak

529 posts

15 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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My dad had his recently. He seems happier, and I like him more now that I don't live with him biggrin

Mirinjawbro

475 posts

51 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Krhuangbin said:
The bit about pondering the thought of getting older a few times a day... I do it constantly, i'm 33, Should really be bang in the middle of prime time as a man. Still objectively and subjectively young. Just getting going...? I have got into a really very unhealthy habit of googling the age of anyone I see in films/TV etc, even those going back many years, when I think how attractive or "at the top of their game" or "before their rise to success" type thing.... when I see that they're older than me I feel relief and a sense of validation that there's still plenty of time... when they're younger even just by a year or two, panic sets in. Weird
very weird. i often find myself watching , "then and now" casts of films. american pie etc.

i then ask myself are they bored now? do they miss it?

what is this ??

deebs

518 posts

47 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Mirinjawbro said:
could be. that's what happened with me being stuck in the in between as mentioned above

i barely go out anymore . probably 5 times a year. not just nights out i mean. pretty much anything messing around with friends. weekends away - random bits.

im also not married / kids.

just been in a dead zone for 5 years


i also think as time has gone on and doing a job i never have liked (analyst IT work), year after year its made it all worse.

id really like to start a new career but current outgoings would never allow it.
You keep (following your other thread) going on about your work and how stuck you are. Fine. 5 years ago I was too. I made adjustments that meant I could move sector for less pay and more interesting work. Did it happen overnight? No. I made a plan and stuck to it. However you are looking in the wrong place if you're expecting fulfillment from your work. Consider, for you, it's going to be a myth. You work in IT (as do I). It's a job, a well paying one at that but it's not something that it going to give you meaning, contentment or fulfillment. You have to look outside work for that. It's out there in ways you don't even know about right now.

Your friends don't do anything. Neither do most of my friendship group from the past. They're still my friends but Im not getting dragged into that trap. I'm out the house 4 nights and 1 day of the week after work doing something I get alot out of. I've met new people, I have different friends, they've expanded my horizons.

To discover new things you have to go and "do" , discover what you don't know or might like. What's the alternative? Continue as you are for another decade? This learned helplessness youve got yourself into isn't going to help. Make a plan, take action.


Edited by deebs on Wednesday 23 November 17:06

WY86

716 posts

14 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Krhuangbin said:
The bit about pondering the thought of getting older a few times a day... I do it constantly, i'm 33, Should really be bang in the middle of prime time as a man. Still objectively and subjectively young. Just getting going...? I have got into a really very unhealthy habit of googling the age of anyone I see in films/TV etc, even those going back many years, when I think how attractive or "at the top of their game" or "before their rise to success" type thing.... when I see that they're older than me I feel relief and a sense of validation that there's still plenty of time... when they're younger (in period) even just by a year or two, panic sets in. Weird
I do similar especially if they died before me!

Hoofy

74,459 posts

269 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2022
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Certainly, reflecting on what you want to do will help. Usually the way to solve this isn't by trying to see what you can get but trying to see what you can give. How can you help someone less fortunate than you? How can you make the world a better place? How can you make life better for future generations? (Not just your kids; and it doesn't involve superglue.)