Mid life crisis. Has anybody had one?

Mid life crisis. Has anybody had one?

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PushedDover

4,909 posts

40 months

Sunday 11th December 2022
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agree. Big nights out, or an 'all weekender' are rarely fun when planned with a works Christmas party.


I am Grinch.


Glad to see you still posting however smile

Armitage.Shanks

1,700 posts

72 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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ben5575 said:
I’m a couple of years older than you, graduated in 98.

Like you my 20s were a lost decade. Chronic anxiety and depression for me although a focus on my work/career helped me through. Life changing though.

My now wife whom I got together with at 17 stuck with me through this time. I suppose loyalty, gratitude for this and maybe even security given my fragility at the time(?) meant that as I emerged from it in my late 20s/early 30s stage of life, marriage and kids were inevitable.

But 30 years on and I’m a very different person to the 17 yo kid who copped with the girl with the nice ass. She isn’t. She (literally) does the same admin job as she did then, with zero drive to do anything other be comfortable at home.

So my MLC as per page 1, is the recognition that spending what time I have left with somebody who’s ambition for the next 30 years is to ‘keep home’ is not for me.

Interesting and rather cathartic thread!
Sounds perfect to me. After our daughter was born my wife never went back to work and stayed home. I was always the main breadwinner with a solid career so it suited me perfectly. The fact my wife had no ‘ambition’ other than raise our child well and keep a good house defined her. It was ok with me. Career wise I was quite motivated but decided to settle in at lower senior management rather than keep going having risen quite quickly. I was not ‘driven’ to get to the top as I learned no matter where you think the top position is there’s always someone above you to pull your strings and with the potential to be a complete bell-end. Any suggestion of being an ‘under achiever’ was never something I thought or was bothered about. Like most I suffered with the stresses of work, managing staff, dealing with issues and I think being conscientious caused a fair amount of anxiety and worse case scenario thought. It did affect my health but didn’t see any alternative. That said I retired in my early 50s with a very good pension, some decent investment planning and have no drive or ambition to do anything other than what the day brings, planning a few short break holidays throughout the year and settling down to Netflix. In other words I’ll do what I want when I want.

Contrast this with a very good friend who retired like me his drive and ambition is winning everything, seeking opportunities to make money and creating a 6-figure ‘pension’ income but without any ‘goals’ other than making more money. It keeps him busy and I presume contented.

Sometimes I might think is this all there is, but then I look back on what I’ve achieved, the things I’ve done, the places I’ve been, the fact we’re financially secure and it’s not all that bad. I’m contented doing very little these days.

ettore

3,755 posts

239 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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Male mid-life crisis is definitely a thing - of all my friends who are close enough to be honest about such matters the response rate would be 100%. It obviously manifests in different ways but the usual stereotypes definitely prevail. The good news is that it passes and the 'other side' is a rather wonderful place of calm - of course not everyone gets away unscathed and several of my friends are now on their second wives/families and/or have shiny new things in the garage.

It should really be diagnosed on the NHS with some form of curative programme - would save billions in cash and enormous family heartache!

okgo

35,253 posts

185 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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I wonder how much of it it just flat out because of kids, and young ones at that. I think most blokes I know would say they were nonplused about having kids and then the subsequent lifestyle change you take from there can be quite dramatic!

Megaflow

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8,704 posts

212 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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okgo said:
I wonder how much of it it just flat out because of kids, and young ones at that. I think most blokes I know would say they were nonplused about having kids and then the subsequent lifestyle change you take from there can be quite dramatic!
I can help there, I don’t have kids.

StevieBee

11,725 posts

242 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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super7 said:
Se7enheaven said:
I’m mid 50’s and can relate to a lot of what has been mentioned already. Too much lingering in the past has been a common theme for me for several years now. I had some wonderful times in the past and you expect these huge highs to last forever , which of course they don’t.

It also feels to me like the world has changed considerably over the last 5 years or so and coming to terms with this is very difficult. Does every “older” generation see it this way , or have things just seemed to have gotten out of control way too fast ?
Life since the Millenium is nowhere near what it was like in the 70's, 80's/90's. Life was easier in those days. GenerationZ have truly screwed the world for all of us as they have got older and got into positions of power..... and we are to blame for having them and bringing them up. They have made so much intolerable, taken the risk out everything. Developed social media which is by far the worst thing ever developed and only possible because our generation created the pentium processor and internet for them to abuse.

Gender, equality, rights have all come to the fore and all go against human nature, we all struggle with it. Our whole lives are being made into one big miserable mess. We can't fart without someone being complaining about global warming.

If I hear one more GenZ person moan about how we're destroying their future and their world whilst ordering oil based plastic clothing from Shein, then i'd like to get that Artemis rocket, stick it up the arse and launch it into deep space!

Edited by super7 on Thursday 1st December 13:10
My view is that as we get older, our need to engage with the world lessens because it becomes less important in our day-to-day lives. By the time we reach mid-50s, our career trajectory is pretty much set, for some, retirement looms. So there's little need for an enquiring mind and we find ourselves sort of tuning-out to the point where all we have left is a view of the world that we had 20 or 30 years earlier.

A possible solution (if you're looking for one) is to embrace liberalism - not necessarily on a political level although that is certainly an option. Liberalism requires examination of the argument, not just the outcome of the argument, the outcome being the thing we're shown and upon which our opinions form.

When you examine the arguments, you may still reach the same opinion but you feel stronger in being able to argue you point. Or, more often, you end up thrusting forward you bottom lip, raise you eyebrows and nod your head thinking ... "that's a good point actually".

It's often said that a mark of getting older is that your narrow waist and broad mind swap places but keeping the mind broad can be highly liberating. Takes a bit of effort and self-reflection but is, I think, worth it.





Boosted LS1

20,874 posts

247 months

Monday 12th December 2022
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I had a mid life crisis years ago and then gave up :-) I just get on with stuff now, grow older gracefully and exploit the benefits of that. I can get away with a lot more chats these days and all's cool. Pressure is far less now I'm older.

Heaveho

4,358 posts

161 months

Tuesday 13th December 2022
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m3cs said:
It’s gotten so bad that I am currently having regular anxious sleepless nights and suicidal thoughts (which I’m confident I’d never act on). No amount of medication, exercise or talking about it seems to be helping.
Currently my world in two sentences. I'm in for tests ( in hospital on Monday next week ) for the third experiment via CT scan to see if there's something actually physically wrong with me as the sleeplessness, nausea and anxiety is all consuming at the moment. Endoscopy after that if the CT is inconclusive. Possibly a stomach ulcer. I don't think I'm physically ill, but if I am, at least finding something might explain things. I've already had my 2nd ( negative ) bowel cancer scare this year, and had to spend time in hospital revisiting a blocked carotid artery issue caused by a bike accident years ago, again, good outcome.

Compared to many, I've got absolutely no reason to be feeling like this, but it's been getting worse for a year now, and if it weren't for the effect it would have on others, I'd be looking at the suicide route much more closely. Really have had enough now. There's something else going on in my life that is something I regard as very personal. I talked to my best mate about it recently, it made me feel worse if anything, and I wish I'd not done it. Not his fault, he was supportive, I just didn't enjoy the experience of speaking about it, and if anything it added to the lack of self respect I currently experience.

If you had said a year ago this is how I'd feel now I'd have laughed at you.

Megaflow

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8,704 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th February
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Revisiting this with some positive news. The lack of a challenge at work has been addressed, I have been offered an accepted a new position.

A very interesting position that will certainly be interesting. I have gone past the excited stage and am currently in the ‘oh sh*t’ stage…

eek

Still Mulling

10,840 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th February
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Megaflow said:
Revisiting this with some positive news. The lack of a challenge at work has been addressed, I have been offered an accepted a new position.

A very interesting position that will certainly be interesting. I have gone past the excited stage and am currently in the ‘oh sh*t’ stage…

eek
Nice one, MF! Excitement and nervousness are the same chemicals etc. etc. Just a matter of framing! thumbup

Heaveho

4,358 posts

161 months

Wednesday
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Megaflow said:
Revisiting this with some positive news. The lack of a challenge at work has been addressed, I have been offered an accepted a new position.

A very interesting position that will certainly be interesting. I have gone past the excited stage and am currently in the ‘oh sh*t’ stage…

eek
That sounds like progress, and hopefully the solution?

I've had an explanation for feeling / being sick frequently. After multiple tests, all inconclusive, I had an endoscopy and was diagnosed with two ulcers plus something I can't pronounce, plus something I can't remember the name of!

So far, no meds prescribed, just taking Omeprazole which appears to make zero difference, so all the symptoms still, but knowing there's actually something physically wrong is better than thinking it's a mental issue. Anyone suffering from nausea etc and just assuming it to be anxiety might want to consider pursuing the possibility that it's a physical issue rather than just living with it.

Megaflow

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8,704 posts

212 months

Yesterday (16:08)
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Heaveho said:
Megaflow said:
Revisiting this with some positive news. The lack of a challenge at work has been addressed, I have been offered an accepted a new position.

A very interesting position that will certainly be interesting. I have gone past the excited stage and am currently in the ‘oh sh*t’ stage…

eek
That sounds like progress, and hopefully the solution?

I've had an explanation for feeling / being sick frequently. After multiple tests, all inconclusive, I had an endoscopy and was diagnosed with two ulcers plus something I can't pronounce, plus something I can't remember the name of!

So far, no meds prescribed, just taking Omeprazole which appears to make zero difference, so all the symptoms still, but knowing there's actually something physically wrong is better than thinking it's a mental issue. Anyone suffering from nausea etc and just assuming it to be anxiety might want to consider pursuing the possibility that it's a physical issue rather than just living with it.
Hopefully. It is all a bit overwhelming at the minute coming the the end of the second week, I have gone from a job where I got promoted through the ranks and did for 15 years to become what every one else referred to me as subject matter expert, to a complete newbie asking the questions not answering them!

Good advice re the health thing, all to easy to pass things off as nothing. Hopefully they clear up soon.

James6112

1,989 posts

15 months

Mid life crisis.
It’s best to get it in early, say around 35
Then you’ll have time for another, a bit later in life!

shirt

21,458 posts

188 months

Megaflow said:
okgo said:
I wonder how much of it it just flat out because of kids, and young ones at that. I think most blokes I know would say they were nonplused about having kids and then the subsequent lifestyle change you take from there can be quite dramatic!
I can help there, I don’t have kids.
agree. i'm 42 with no kids and doubt they'll ever happen [which i'm fine with]. i received a message this morning on our whatsapp group chat that one of my uni mates just had his second child. there's only 2 of us on that chat without kids and our lifestyles vis those who do are markedly different.

i don't think its possible to have the classic midlife crisis if you don't have kids. you've been able to do whatever you want when you want and make stupid purchases / big life decisions with little consequence.

the existential type crisis is normal and, with perspective, a good way of questioning whether life is going as you envisaged and prompting change as a result.

congrats on the new role btw!

Edited by shirt on Friday 24th March 07:50

youngsyr

13,339 posts

179 months

shirt said:
Megaflow said:
okgo said:
I wonder how much of it it just flat out because of kids, and young ones at that. I think most blokes I know would say they were nonplused about having kids and then the subsequent lifestyle change you take from there can be quite dramatic!
I can help there, I don’t have kids.
agree. i'm 42 with no kids and doubt they'll ever happen [which i'm fine with]. i received a message this morning on our whatsapp group chat that one of my uni mates just had his second child. there's only 2 of us on that chat without kids and our lifestyles vis those who do are markedly different.

i don't think its possible to have the classic midlife crisis if you don't have kids. you've been able to do whatever you want when you want and make stupid purchases / big life decisions with little consequence.

the existential type crisis is normal and, with perspective, a good way of questioning whether life is going as you envisaged and prompting change as a result.

congrats on the new role btw!

Edited by shirt on Friday 24th March 07:50
I suspect the kids/no kids issue will increasingly be a factor in people's lives. I'm the other way around, almost all my long term friends don't have kids and have now accepted they won't in their mid forties.

I have 2 kids and our lifestyles are very different. They are organising ski trips and Ibiza trips amongst them and that just isn't where my life is any more.

Its difficult because I don't make friends easily and can feel the ones I do have drifting away, understandably if I'm not sharing their enthusiasm.

Evoluzione

10,276 posts

230 months

shirt said:
i don't think its possible to have the classic midlife crisis if you don't have kids.
It is smile